If you were designing a stove, what features would you....

[DBCOOPER]

Include?
Here's my dream stove.
It would be a direct vent with remote combustion and convection fans. A box outside that had a lid you could open easily for cleaning the fans and a pathway for outside air.It would be wisper quiet Variable back pressure so that the exhaust would be at the best flow for heat exchange regardless of firing rate. Soundless pellet feeding. A pressurized air wash system that would keep the glass clean all the time. An automatic ash removal system.

What would you include?

 

[jtakeman]

Option to add duct work for the basement dwellers.

 

[Don2222]

My Maxx flew the coup last night before I could play with it much. :-(
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https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/325-lbs-of-steel-and-fire.112392/

 

[briansol]

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads...-like-in-your-wood-pellet-super-stove.106102/

 

[smwilliamson]

My Maxx flew the coup last night before I could play with it much. :-(
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https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/325-lbs-of-steel-and-fire.112392/

How is this post at all relevant to the OP?

 

[smwilliamson]

Whatever it is, dang it, it should load itself, just sayin

 

[Don2222]

How is this post at all relevant to the OP?

Thanks for asking.

Maxx has an optional duct kit for heat distribution, which is a great feature that would be nice for any stove to have as an option!
See > > http://www.enviro.com/product_notes/1323930425-Maxx Heat Distribution Kit.pdf

 

[smwilliamson]

Thanks for asking.

Maxx has an optional duct kit for heat distribution, which is a great feature that would be nice for any stove to have as an option!
See > > http://www.enviro.com/product_notes/1323930425-Maxx Heat Distribution Kit.pdf

No chit. Didn't know they made that for that, wow... I like that stove more again. Got a Maxx-M coming in to the shop for a demo, gonna have to plumb it out with that fer sure!

 

[DexterDay]

Self diagnosis... Bottom feed... Touch screen control... Almost infinite adjustability... Very easy to clean...
Fancy looking...






Wait....... I just bought one of those

 

[Don2222]

Self diagnosis... Bottom feed... Touch screen control... Almost infinite adjustability... Very easy to clean...
Fancy looking...






Wait....... I just bought one of those

And don't forget venting that warms the fresh air to the burn pot to reduce moist sticky ash to cleanout!

 

[TheMightyMoe]

02 sensors/draft with real trim control, 02 sensors run in duplex and be self testing with at least a 3 year warranty. (If one fails, stove reverts to default excess air mode until replaced)
A cheap LCD with push buttons. A color touch screen is fine if it doesn't increase cost / costly to replace. More ideal is passworded bluetooth to app/phone/computer, if you want the frills.
Bottom feed
Cleaning mode button (Turns on exhaust fan full blast)
OVERSIZED ash can (see P series)
2 bag hopper
Separate affordable UPS option
Internal heat exchanger brush
Included wireless thermostat / stove modulation to match load with the option of on/off hi/lo modes.

With exhaust temperatures stoves could notify you if you need to clean exchangers / stove based on temperature averages at different setpoints.
Likewise if is draft consistently worse, based on fan input, stove could notify you of issues.

I'm really not sure how 02 trim on a pellet stove would work, but I assume their could be room for significant savings in the 5-10% range.

 

[smwilliamson]

And don't forget venting that warms the fresh air to the burn pot to reduce moist sticky ash to cleanout!

I think we already debunked that theory as a myth

 

[smwilliamson]

Include?
Here's my dream stove.
It would be a direct vent with remote combustion and convection fans. A box outside that had a lid you could open easily for cleaning the fans and a pathway for outside air.It would be wisper quiet Variable back pressure so that the exhaust would be at the best flow for heat exchange regardless of firing rate. Soundless pellet feeding. A pressurized air wash system that would keep the glass clean all the time. An automatic ash removal system.

What would you include?

A stove with clean glass all of the time is a stove with no glass at all? Has there ever been a p stove with no glass?

 

[hockeypuck]

o2 sensors and self diagnosis... ugh.. I see Washington and regulators all over us.. "Plug your stove in and pay a fee to make sure we know you stove is running right". Be careful what you wish for. I want my stove to run right because it will last and burn efficiently. I do not need a computer telling me I can not burn because an o2 sensor failed. Just the libertarian in me screaming out...

But back to the thread.. easy to clean which includes a port off the side plug a leaf blower into to suck the cleaning debris out and vent it to an open window near by. Also thought of marketing a special tee that houses a brush to clean a lined chimney so you do not have to get on a roof in the dead of winter.

 

[smwilliamson]

I saw a contraption of a vent with a chain inside. Pull off the t cover, rattle the chain, vacuum the stuff that comes out, replace the cover. Homeowner design to clean a 35 foot run up three floors, hung the chain off the cap on top.

 

[hockeypuck]

I like this....need to make a box. Thanks for the idea.

 

[TheMightyMoe]

o2 sensors and self diagnosis... ugh.. I see Washington and regulators all over us.. "Plug your stove in and pay a fee to make sure we know you stove is running right". Be careful what you wish for. I want my stove to run right because it will last and burn efficiently. I do not need a computer telling me I can not burn because an o2 sensor failed. Just the libertarian in me screaming out...

But back to the thread.. easy to clean which includes a port off the side plug a leaf blower into to suck the cleaning debris out and vent it to an open window near by. Also thought of marketing a special tee that houses a brush to clean a lined chimney so you do not have to get on a roof in the dead of winter.

I see your fear, but it is the coming future most likely either way. Which is why I mentioned If one fails, stove reverts to default excess air mode until replaced, The stove is meant to keep us warm, it isn't a luxury item. Our stoves currently run in excess air mode as it is, I believe.

 

[smwilliamson]

I see your fear, but it is the coming future most likely either way. Which is why I mentioned If one fails, stove reverts to default excess air mode until replaced, The stove is meant to keep us warm, it isn't a luxury item. Our stoves currently run in excess air mode as it is, I believe.

Not austroflamme which is now Rika. Only stove I know of that matched combustion rpm with air volume...might be the only company to monitor air volume.

 

[TheMightyMoe]

Not austroflamme which is now Rika. Only stove I know of that matched combustion rpm with air volume...might be the only company to monitor air volume.

Nice, I really don't know enough to talk the talk. For Fairbanks weather, when it hits -20to-40s I know my stove drafts like a beast and is probably getting more then enough 02, and I don't want to adjust the draft knowing the next day it might be +20

 

[movemaine]

I'd like a more modular system (ability to add pieces/functionality) - for example, same stove can be a freestand or insert based on modular pieces. Another example would be hopper size, etc.

I'd also like an electronic interface, with a computer system that allows you to figure out the best pellet based on sensor data.

 

[IHATEPROPANE]

I would like to keep things simple.....no extra sensors ....perfect stove would be the M55 with a 120lb hopper.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

o2 sensors and self diagnosis... ugh.. I see Washington and regulators all over us.. "Plug your stove in and pay a fee to make sure we know you stove is running right". Be careful what you wish for. I want my stove to run right because it will last and burn efficiently. I do not need a computer telling me I can not burn because an o2 sensor failed. Just the libertarian in me screaming out...

But back to the thread.. easy to clean which includes a port off the side plug a leaf blower into to suck the cleaning debris out and vent it to an open window near by. Also thought of marketing a special tee that houses a brush to clean a lined chimney so you do not have to get on a roof in the dead of winter.

I guess that lets out having a still attachment, them darn infernal revenuers would show up at the door collecting taxes,

 

[jtakeman]

I would like to keep things simple.....no extra sensors ....perfect stove would be the M55 with a 120lb hopper.

M55 steel has a hopper extension available. OEM from factory.

 

[IHATEPROPANE]

M55 steel has a hopper extension available. OEM from factory.

This is very good information indeed!! I am going to redo my back room in a year or two and this is on the top of my list.

 

[jtakeman]

I'd also like an electronic interface, with a computer system that allows you to figure out the best pellet based on sensor data.

I think this could be fabbed and added to any unit. That is if we ever figure out what we need. Might be a little harder on the Harmans as they modulate feed on the fly. This topic could be worth its own thread!