Characteristics of a flame

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md2002

Feeling the Heat
Oct 18, 2011
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I did a search but didn't really come up with what I was looking for... I really did do a search.

Spending hours on here a day I have read allot about people flames being high and hot and this, that and the other thing. I guess my question is - What is a characteristics of a flame, a good flame. I saw a video posted by a member here where the flame was high, big and constant. My flames get high at times but then get lower and stay low then burst up for about 20 seconds or so then get low again. This happens with all Pellets I use. Some flames stay higher longer but none of them are constantly high and raging. Is this normal or do I need to give it more air or something? The stove seems hot and to be working correctly I just don't have a high constant flame for more than 20 - 30 seconds. It keeps coming back but never constantly high.
 
You want a little fluctuation. If you keep it steady, It might get lazy(too little air or too much fuel). Fire should grow after the auger feeds the pellets in and jsut before the next dump it should be dropping slightly

Good fire is brisk, But not too or you will loose heat out the vent. It shouldn't be lazy with black tips either.

If you put your stove in your sig we won't need to ask what cha got. What stove you got? Some manu's have video's on site to assist in visual flame checking. Some like quads say so high off the burnpot. But without knowing what stove I can point you anywhere. ;-)
 
My stove fires range as well, but its all due to the amount of pellets in the pot burning and good air. When the stove is calling for more pellets the fire will get nice and high and hot! You will get asked the same basic questions. Do you have an OAK? Do you have a clean stove? Do you get lazy smokey fires with dirty glass? Play around with it and see, im no expert lol! And put your stove type in your sig so ppl can help you.
 
Some stoves have feed trim adjustments and some have fuel gates in the hopper to allow more or less fuel. Fixed feed stoves usually have a damper to add or reduce the combustion air.

Between the 2 you can usually get em close!
 
My stove is a multi-fuel with a stirrer that stirs the coals in the burn pot, similar to if you took a poker to a bon fire. When the stirrer operates the flame usually grows in my stove.
 
You can tell when your flame is adjusted right. Your stove runs real hot. That would be optimum burn temperature.

Watch the tips of your flames. Orange and wide is bad. Set your damper just off the wide part, if the stove is dirty don't mess with the damper clean the stove. I think I get the most efficiency that way.
 
The flame in my PDVC rises and falls. it may burn for several minutes entirely within the burn pot then rise until flames reach the lift tab for the impingement plate then return to the burn pot. My pellets are relatively consistent with no really long ones, very few pellets over an inch. Has always been this way. I set feed and air to obtain a light amber ash and call it good.
 
Every stove has a different flame and characteristics. Knowing your stove model will help with those with the same model, describe it in more detail.
 
I have an Enviro Milan insert and it was in my sig... I put it there last time I got the lecture :) I guess I will put it there again and see what happens.

I do not have an OAK and the dealer set the air for me, told me that is where it should be. I do have a setting to set the Auger speed but the dealer who installed basically told me 99% of the time you do not need to touch that. He said don't touch.. unless your having issues.

The flame seems good, high to low to low to high. I was just curious if that's the norm or if it should always be high flame. I clean my stove everyday. Which kind of sucks but I have a very small ash pan, in hindsight I wish I knew that a big ash pan is kind of important. Live and learn I guess. There isn't much ash but after about 2 bags the ash is touching the burn pot.. but there is only about an inch from the burnpot to the ash pan floor and the ash pan floor is not that big. I assume you get the same evil with most inserts.
 
Md2002 said:
I did a search but didn't really come up with what I was looking for... I really did do a search.

Spending hours on here a day I have read allot about people flames being high and hot and this, that and the other thing. I guess my question is - What is a characteristics of a flame, a good flame. I saw a video posted by a member here where the flame was high, big and constant. My flames get high at times but then get lower and stay low then burst up for about 20 seconds or so then get low again. This happens with all Pellets I use. Some flames stay higher longer but none of them are constantly high and raging. Is this normal or do I need to give it more air or something? The stove seems hot and to be working correctly I just don't have a high constant flame for more than 20 - 30 seconds. It keeps coming back but never constantly high.

If the stove is older than 2-3 years it sounds like the Auger Brass Bushing to me! If you have a top feed auger then the SAE 841 Impregnated Brass bushing has lost alot of it's lubrication!! The heat draws it out!! If you replace this bushing I am sure you will see a difference. I tried lubricating mine with bushing oil like 3-1 oil with some success but replacing the bushing is the way to go!!

See this video on how to do it!!


 

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