New stove learnin'

bluedogz · Feb 18, 2012

OK, so, new stove is coming... https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/91119/

Now, I am told the NC30 burns totally differently than my old steel-box-with-a-door... how so? What burning habits do I need to change?

Usual start in the dragon is 4-5 skinny splits with a fistful of kindling on top and 1/2 a Duraflame underneath; when that all coals up in 30 minutes or so I throw big splits on, and don't mess with it anymore.

Advice?

KodiakII · Feb 18, 2012

I can`t believe how fast my flue temps come up and without the roaring inferno that the old one produced! Seems to be burning a lot cleaner, my chimney cap even looks cleaner!

begreen · Feb 18, 2012

Sometimes learnin' is a good thing. Especially when the results are good.

wingsfan · Feb 18, 2012

BeGreen said:
Sometimes learnin' is a good thing. Especially when the results are good.

Not gonna learn anything tho if no one offers advice. I can give any , im just starting out myself, so I can't offer any. But I will payattention to this thread so I might be able to learn also. This is a great place.

camenitto · Feb 18, 2012

Im not familiar with the unit, but i imagine it has a reburn system in it for high efficient burns. Rather a catalyst or non the key to burning clean and long is controling temps and burning good seasoned wood, moisture levels under 20%. both a no cat and catalyst reburn systems need enough heat to activate systems. two ways to know if your reburn system is acctuated is: first temps of stove. Its important not to over fire or burn to cold the later being a creosote producing type fire. Second is visuals of either air baffles or chambers( flames exiting air ports), a glowing catalytic converter, and or low to no smoke coming out of the stack.

BrowningBAR · Feb 18, 2012

Learnin' a new stove happens once every winter for me. Sometimes, twice.

BrotherBart · Feb 18, 2012

Coming off of a Sierra to the 30 is kinda familiar to me. The first thing to do is start slow with it. Pack it like the old stove right off the bat and it will go nuts on ya. And you can't just pull two sliders closed and stop the action. Start with small loads and build up while you get used to the stove. Burn a small fire to get a coal bed and drag it to the front. Put three big split in with the front of them on top of the coal bed and burn it up to around four hundred with the air open all the way and then close it down a third. Around five fifty close it to where the tip of the air control spring is even with the front of the ash lip. This with the thermo on the front of the step bend in front of the flue color. The hottest part of the stove during a burn.

Enjoy the nice fire and the view through that big glass. Later you can start adding more wood and scaring the crap out of yourself when the secondary burn goes nuts and the thermo heads to the moon.

DexterDay · Feb 18, 2012

BrotherBart said:
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Enjoy the nice fire and the view through that big glass. Later you can start adding more wood and scaring the crap out of yourself when the secondary burn goes nuts and the thermo heads to the moon.

Yep... Start small as BB suggests. The closer the wood level gets to the secondary tubes, the crazier it gets... So start with single level fires (bottom row splits only). Working your way up.

More than once has it gotten HOT. By Hot, I mean the Magnetic Thermos dont read that high. Scary. . . Secondary action at the temp looks like the bowels of Hell....

You will soon find your way of doing things. Having all the past threads on the 30-NC helped me a lot. Learning BB's patented "Cigar Burn" and learning how to make the "Tunnel of Love" (spectacular light show/another BB patent ;-P ). Are all here if you do a simple search. Thats prob the nest nicest thing about the 30. Other than being a Crankin Heater. It also has Gobs of info here on it, with lots of users that have been there and done that.

Good luck and looking forward to pics.

bluedogz · Feb 18, 2012

BrotherBart said:
Coming off of a Sierra to the 30 is kinda familiar to me. The first thing to do is start slow with it. Pack it like the old stove right off the bat and it will go nuts on ya. And you can't just pull two sliders closed and stop the action. Start with small loads and build up while you get used to the stove. Burn a small fire to get a coal bed and drag it to the front. Put three big split in with the front of them on top of the coal bed and burn it up to around four hundred with the air open all the way and then close it down a third. Around five fifty close it to where the tip of the air control spring is even with the front of the ash lip. This with the thermo on the front of the step bend in front of the flue color. The hottest part of the stove during a burn.

Enjoy the nice fire and the view through that big glass. Later you can start adding more wood and scaring the crap out of yourself when the secondary burn goes nuts and the thermo heads to the moon.

Exactly what I needed! I am HOPING for a first burn tonight but you never know... we still gotta hoik the thing up onto the hearth and Mrs. Blue will not be rushed.

begreen · Feb 18, 2012

Take your time and do all steps of the process safely and correctly, starting with the moving of those heavy beasts.

bluedogz · Feb 19, 2012

BeGreen said:
Take your time and do all steps of the process safely and correctly, starting with the moving of those heavy beasts.

Actually got the dragon out onto the porch on my own.

The 30 took three of us, but it wasn't too bad bec. I have a 4-wheel appliance dolly and was able to just back the trailer up to the back deck and roll the dolly down & in the door to the stove room. Needed three bodies just for the big HYUP from the floor to the raised hearth. After that it was just housekeeping and fitting the pipe and such.

Hogwildz · Feb 19, 2012

How did the pipe line up, was it plug & play? Or did you have to trim it down?

bluedogz · Feb 19, 2012

Hogwildz said:
How did the pipe line up, was it plug & play? Or did you have to trim it down?

Had to trim 2" off the vertical run, then it just clicked together. Biggest problem was cutting through the seam part of the single-wall.

Just to be safe, I bought $20 worth of new pipe at TSC, but turned out not to need any of it.

Hogwildz · Feb 19, 2012

bluedogz said:
Hogwildz said:

How did the pipe line up, was it plug & play? Or did you have to trim it down?

Click to expand...

Had to trim 2" off the vertical run, then it just clicked together. Biggest problem was cutting through the seam part of the single-wall.

Just to be safe, I bought $20 worth of new pipe at TSC, but turned out not to need any of it.

Well we had to hacksaw it last time at the seam. So yeah it was just a tad PITA.

oldspark · Feb 19, 2012

Hogwildz said:
bluedogz said:

Hogwildz said:

How did the pipe line up, was it plug & play? Or did you have to trim it down?

Click to expand...

Had to trim 2" off the vertical run, then it just clicked together. Biggest problem was cutting through the seam part of the single-wall.

Just to be safe, I bought $20 worth of new pipe at TSC, but turned out not to need any of it.

Click to expand...

Well we had to hacksaw it last time at the seam. So yeah it was just a tad PITA.

You guys dont have a dremel tool, you gotta quit playing with the grown up toys and buy some kids toys like slot cars. %-P

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