Dramatic improvement cleaning the wear plate holes

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kofkorn

Feeling the Heat
Dec 3, 2008
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Central MA
Hi All,

I'm on season #4 with my PDV, and I've been lurking on the forum a lot this season as compared to years past. I have been having a rougher season this year keeping the PDV happy, and this past week, I figured out my issue. I went through a full cleaning this fall, taking out the combustion blower, running the leaf blower, blowing compressed air through the exchanger, etc. But I couldn't keep a clean burn going for more than a week or so. If I didn't do a full cleaning each week, I would start getting a lazy burn, and the window would soot up.

Well the last cleaning (now on three weeks) I finally figured out my problem. Over the past four years I've been pretty good about cleaning out all of the creosote from the auger, burn pot and wear plate and doing a solid cleaning everywhere else on a weekly basis. Each time I inspected the holes on the wear plate and I didn't see any blockages and they all looked clean.

Well looks are deceiving. This last time I decided to take a drill to the holes, and man-o-man, what a difference. I now am running three weeks on the same cleaning, with no evidence of any issues. I've probably cut the amount of ash that stays in the burn pot in half, and I am back to the burn that I had when the stove was running well.

So add that one piece of info to the 1-ton clean out. Make sure to drill out those holes in the wear plate!

Hopefully this will help someone else with their burn issues.
 
I keep a drill bit right in my stove tool kit right besides the stove..Ash gets into the cavities of the burnpot itself and causes issues also.(have a gasket on hand before removing burn pot)..Thanks for reminding me to clean the holes!
 
I had the wear plate out yesterday, and wire brushed it off. The holes did not seem to be clogged so I put it back in service. I also have a spare wear plate, just in case.

Bill
 
smoke show said:
VCBurner said:
What is a wear plate?

Englanders have a different firepot design, with a removable wear plate on the bottom.

It is their version of a burn pot liner.

Other folks get to clean the crud out of the slots or holes in their burn pots or burn pot liners.
 
bill3rail said:
I had the wear plate out yesterday, and wire brushed it off. The holes did not seem to be clogged so I put it back in service. I also have a spare wear plate, just in case.

Bill

Hi Bill,

I've had the same thought for the past four years... The holes looked fine and weren't clogged, so put it back in service. But the holes were building up around the outside edges and were effectively getting smaller in diameter over time. When I drilled them, there wasn't a single hole that was blocked or even looked like it had any build up in it. But when I ran the drill through it, the difference was amazing.

To me, the effort it takes running a drill bit (1/8" is recommended by Englander in the manual) through each of the holes during my 1 ton clean-out will certainly be worth it.

But in the end, each system is different and you should do what works for you.
 
My stove doesn't have a wear plate, but I keep a round file that fits inside the holes in my burnpot liner right on the workbench where I clean the pot+liner. It is easy to just run the file through the holes every other clean up or whenever necessary. The idea of a drill bit seems even easier though. I saw a friend doing his version of cleaning his burn pot on his englander. He just srcapped the burn pot into the ash pan and re-started the stove. He also didn't clean his exhaust passages or even vent pipes for two years after he bought it. I don't know how it was even working. He said there was a screen on the air intake somewhere that was completely clogged with dust. It's a wonder the combution blower didn't burn out. I believe my stove would fail if left unserviced for two years. Then again, his stove was bought brand new. Mine is almost 10 years old.

My regular clean ups consist of burn pot liner scraping, glass cleaning and ash removal from all visible parts inside the firebox as well as ash pan. Once a month I remove the firebox cast iron liner plates and get rid of the ash behind them. My deep cleaning time is approaching soon. I have done one so far this year. Close to end of ton #2 burned, so this will be the second time. I will remove the combustion blower this time (which I didn't do the first time) and all the exhaust passages will be cleaned from the back as far as I can. I have an attachment with a small flex tube that will be able to reach hard places inside the exhaust passages. I will remove the convection blower as well to clean up any dust that may be caked up on it. The pipes will also get brushed and vac'ed. I don't have a leaf blower except for a back pack one so I'll have to wait untill I get an electric cheapie to give that a whirl!
 
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