Covering Firewood to Dry?

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Marcus

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Feb 11, 2006
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Ohio
I was wondering how many people cover their wood to dry and how many just let it sit out exposed to the rain.
I have been covering the top of my piles with clear plastic, but it seems to become a
breading ground for mosquitos from the pooled water when it rains. If you do not cover your wood to dry,
when do you cover it for the winter to keep the snow off?

Many Thanks
 
I put wire fence over the pile, then the clear plastic. It keeps a stiff surface across the top of the pile.
 
Black plastic here.

Yeah, there is some part of me that thinks the black helps with the radiation heat transfer a little. Call me nuts.
 
I leave mine uncovered most of the year. Around Oct I5 I will cover my piles.
 
I'm with EH but a monthe earlier The wood I plann to use this season is covered Sept 15 the rest for nex year the year after and the year after that I have not covered yet the puddles just lift the cover and drain the water
 
I'll tell you that for the past couple days...Nothing has stayed dry. Piles that have a 2' overhang are wet on the bottom 1/3.
 
I try to let mine have a 8 or 10 inch over hang on each side and then put little sticks under tarp between wood to hold tarp up, this has so far kept mine dry all the way to the bottom.


Robbie
 
FWIW, I use tarps with grommets along the outside and then use bungee cords wrapped around the base of the pallets to hold the tarps down along the edges. That keeps the tarps from flying around in the wind and helps create smooth surfaces for water to run off. Also, I mound my piles higher in the center so the water runs from the center to the ends.
 
Corie said:
Black plastic here.

Yeah, there is some part of me that thinks the black helps with the radiation heat transfer a little. Call me nuts.
..........NUTS ! ........... Thanks, I feel better Corie.
 
Well since I am trying the Holz Hausen this year, i'm leaving it un covered. But I do bring in enough wood for a week next to the stove, so it all drys out after 1 fire anyway. Not a big fan of tarps, big eye sore.
 
Todd said:
Well since I am trying the Holz Hausen this year, i'm leaving it un covered. But I do bring in enough wood for a week next to the stove, so it all drys out after 1 fire anyway. Not a big fan of tarps, big eye sore.
I agree and thought the same thing about tarps , I found BROWN tarps at the box store and when covered you dont even see the tarp on the wood pile .
 
Roospike said:
Todd said:
Well since I am trying the Holz Hausen this year, i'm leaving it un covered. But I do bring in enough wood for a week next to the stove, so it all drys out after 1 fire anyway. Not a big fan of tarps, big eye sore.
I agree and thought the same thing about tarps , I found BROWN tarps at the box store and when covered you dont even see the tarp on the wood pile .

Great idea!
 
Todd said:
Roospike said:
Todd said:
Well since I am trying the Holz Hausen this year, i'm leaving it un covered. But I do bring in enough wood for a week next to the stove, so it all drys out after 1 fire anyway. Not a big fan of tarps, big eye sore.
I agree and thought the same thing about tarps , I found BROWN tarps at the box store and when covered you dont even see the tarp on the wood pile .

Great idea!
O' Yeah BTW, when i use the brown tarps I also use button kaps for roofing felt to hold the tarp down , works a lot better than ropes and/or tying the tarp down, I dont expect the tarp to last for more than a year anyway , the tarps are cheap and so are the button roofing felt caps.
 
i had a cord and a half of red oak under a big tarp since it was cut down in the end of may. i didn't plan on burning it this year so i was not in a hurry to stack it. besides my back wouldn't let me until now. i just pull the tarp off today. and there are some very light pieces there. i would say it is at least half dry. these pieces were 1/3 the weight now from when they were cut. i didn't expect it to be any where near dry because of the moist ground under it and i never pulled off the tarp on good days. surprise surprise.
 
btw i'm a black plastic guy also. if it's in the sun and you put a green split under that black plastic it will be dry in a few months. light in weight with the bark falling off it.
juuuust my experience
 
fbelec said:
btw i'm a black plastic guy also. if it's in the sun and you put a green split under that black plastic it will be dry in a few months. light in weight with the bark falling off it.
juuuust my experience
Your saying that you can take green wood that normally takes 9 months to dry and it will dry it in just a few months with black plastic ???!!! Its fully dry ? (20% moisture)
 
Roospike said:
fbelec said:
btw i'm a black plastic guy also. if it's in the sun and you put a green split under that black plastic it will be dry in a few months. light in weight with the bark falling off it.
juuuust my experience
Your saying that you can take green wood that normally takes 9 months to dry and it will dry it in just a few months with black plastic ???!!! Its fully dry ? (20% moisture)

i buy the black plastic at homer depot. it comes 3 feet wide. put over the top of a single pile it hangs over the edges of the splits enough to cover a couple of layers of splits. a green piece of wood placed under that black plastic in the sun for about 4 months is fairly dry. i'm not sure about the 20% but the weight is cut down between 50 and 75 %. the wood is very light and if most of the weight of a split is moisture than most of the moisture is gone.

all i can say is try it. it's most likely not bone dry but it's almost there. i've had some so dry the bark falls off. some day i'll buy a moisture meter.
 
The piles outside get covered with roofing tin...a couple of 6-8 ft long 2 inch diameter poles keep it from ending up across the road..
 
I cover the tops of mine, I buy my wood in April and burn it by October/November. It's usually just able to burn. I have it exposed to wind, too many trees not on my property to be able to have it in sunlight, which would be the fastest way to dry. My neighbor doesn't cover his, nor has sunlight either. We buy at the same time. When he's burning his wood his chimney belches white smoke, tells me his wood is too wet.
 
My most recent wood shed I built to hold about 6 cords, and cost me about $600 using almost all new materials from Home Despot (shopping in NH for that 5% savings...) I built figuring on 24" lengths, but shorter or longer peices could be planned for instead.

My shed is nominally 16' long, maybe 15'6" actual inside space, and holds four rows of splits, stacked to about 6' on the low side and 7' on the high side. I roofed it with that clear corrugated "PAL" roofing - think plastic roofing tin, which was a large part of the cost, but was also the cheapest roofing I could find if looking for more than tarps.

I started with a stretch of reasonably flat and level ground that I cleared as much of the vegetation off of as I could. I wasn't fanatical about it, this is a shed folks, not a house... :p

I put down two 16' pressure treated 2x4's per row of splits, spaced 18" apart. I put 6" between pairs, so that each row would have 24" of width. (with 3" overhang on each outside). I cut another 16' PT 2x4 into two 7'6" lengths, and screwed one across each end of the long rows. The 2x4's were all set on the narrow edge. This frame defines the floor of the shed, and keeps the splits off the ground. Since the floor is left as dirt otherwise, permits aren't needed (why pay the gov't for nothing...)

These dimensions are what would be adjusted as needed for shorter or longer splits. I would adjust the number of rows to give an effective width between 6 and 8 feet, although it would possibly be easier to roof if the width was kept closer to 7 feet.

At each corner, I put an upright cut from another pair of 16' PT 2x4's. I could possibly have used non PT for this, but felt that since the bottom end of each upright is in ground contact, and they would be exposed to the weather that the PT would be better. The uprights were cut to give a pitch to the roof and allow as high a stack under it as safely practical. I decided to go with 6' at the back and 7' at the front. I could have gone a bit higher in retrospect, but that wouldn't have gained me that much. A steeper pitch might have been nice, but the longer that diagonal is, the more of a pain getting the roofing is.

I tied the tops of the uprights together with regular 16' 2x4's, cut on the short sides to fit the slope. To encourage everything to stay square, I put a couple of short diagonal braces made from the extra offcut lengths between the uprights and the outside floor members.

On each end, I put a section of pre-fab 8' wide by 6' high stockade fence, inside the uprights, with the fence cross members on the outside. These formed the endwalls for the stacks, and were both cheaper and stronger than plywood would have been. Since the tops of these walls are going to be pushed outwards by the stacks, the top lengthwise 2X4's are obviously going to be stressed members, which will help to support the roof. (Now that I have the shed filled, the fence sections are visibly bulged out...)

When I had first started to think about building a woodshed I happenned to find a bunch of PT 1x decking that was really ratty, but that I thought might be good for roof supports, so I snagged it. I now spread it out across the roof 2x4's diagonally to make the most of it, and spacing it fairly widely. I didn't have quite enough, so I had to purchase a couple of additional PT 1x6's to make up the extra that I needed. I used my trimming peices to jam under the frame to help even out some of the low spots in the ground. (had to do something with them...)

I then decided that the two 16' long 2x4's weren't really enough to hold up the roof the way I'd like, and were a bit too springy, so I got a 3rd 16 footer to put in the middle, and cut 3 8' regular 2x4's to add support posts in the center. I put the support posts in so as to bow the roof beams up in the center an inch or two.

I decided that I really didn't like the idea of using a tarp for roofing, and after looking at a number of options found the plastic PAL roofing was the least expensive option. The only problem was it comes in 8' lengths that were too short (remember that diagonal roof pitch?) or 12' lengths that were much more than I needed (Maybe I'll make the next shed wider?) I ended up getting a couple of extra 8' lengths and cutting them into 2' peices. Fitting them together with the 8' lengths, using the reccomended 6" overlap gave me about a 9'6" wide roof, enough to cover the width of the pile with about 6" overhang on each side.

The shed was open on the sides most of the summer as I was filling it, but now I have gotten some heavy duty silver poly tarps from Harbor Freight and hung them (nailed them with my 1/4" crown air stapler...) from the 16' roof beams. This gives good protection from wind blown precipitation, but the space under the roof still lets the stacks breath. I might also get some level of greenhouse effect from the PAL roofing. When I need to access the wood, I can simply roll the tarp up and hold it up with some recycled "lettuce velcro" (very useful stuff BTW)

So far I haven't found a need to tie the bottoms down, but if I do what I'll probably do is just try tie-wrapping the bottom edge to a peice of pipe to give it some weight.

Hope this is useful - I haven't seen much else in the way of how to build wood sheds for less...

Goosrider
 
Here's my strictly anecdotal experience: I have an uncovered mixed hardwood pile, it's been seasoning uncovered for between 7 to 12 months. Yesterday here in Connecticut we received about 3" of rain, steady rain all day. Today I brought in a few pieces from the pile and I am burning them now. no problem, no hissing, no indication of any excess moisture. They're burning just fine. I'm convinced that if the wood is seasoned, the rain and snow has a negligible effect on its burning performance.
 
chrisN said:
Here's my strictly anecdotal experience: I have an uncovered mixed hardwood pile, it's been seasoning uncovered for between 7 to 12 months. Yesterday here in Connecticut we received about 3" of rain, steady rain all day. Today I brought in a few pieces from the pile and I am burning them now. no problem, no hissing, no indication of any excess moisture. They're burning just fine. I'm convinced that if the wood is seasoned, the rain and snow has a negligible effect on its burning performance.
That's my experience too. Although, the wood I burn has usually been seasoning for longer than that, 3-4 years or more.
 
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