I decided on new Drolet HT2000, need oversight

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bryansong

bryansong

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Hello all and thanks for your help so far and pointing me in the right direction.

Thanks to begreen for suggesting a few models, I have decided on ordering the new Drolet HT2000.
I have a Northern Tools store locally so I'll contact them about what my options are as far as delivery.
I'm betting it will be one of those items I just have to pick up at the store.

I can also order
Dura-Vent basic Chimney kit
Dura-Vent Chimney pipe 36" (ceramic insulated)

Question about the stove pipe. Since I am trying to install as close to the back wall as possible,
don't I need to use an insulated stove or double walled pipe?
I didn't see one of those a Northern Tool, at least not a black one.

Do you have any suggestions for me? I have printed a copy of the owners manual and Drolet's Wood Stove Venting Worksheet so I can do a little reading and bone up on what I need to do.

I thought of something else. Reading reviews someone mentioned mounting a thermometer on the stove pipe to make sure you are running the stove in the proper heat range but that got me wondering how I could do that with double wall stove pipe. What do I do there?

Bryan
 
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For the closest install - yes, you will want double wall insulated pipe. A probe thermo is used on double wall. Basically a hole drilled through both walls and a probe that resembles a meat thermo is installed.
 
Keep in mind that the pipe is only part of the equation. The stove itself will have a specific clearance to combustibles. This can often be reduced by heat shields, but consult your install manual for specifics if you go that route.
 
Note that if you are trying to buy all parts at one location that Menards does not sell DuraVent pipe. They sell SuperVent at a very good price. If you choose to go with SuperVent you will also need to use their double-wall pipe. Regardless of company, you'll want to stick with one pipe brand from the stove to the cap for ease of installation and correct transitions from stove pipe to chimney.
 
I ordered the stove from Northern Tools, the Menards deal would have saved me a few bucks but I would have had to drive an hour to get it.
I didn't order the pipe choosing to look up Northline Express on my home computer tonight and see what they cost. That site is blocked here at work.
I can order most of what I need from Northern Tools, all but that insulated double wall stove pipe. I can compare prices between the two places tonight
then place the order.
Based on the reviews of the Drolet HT-2000 a lot of people weren't too keen on the blower so I didn't order that thinking I could do that later if I wanted to.
I am going to look up that Magic Heat Blower and see about one of those. Do you have an opinion on those?

Well, I just looked up the Magic Heat Blower and that isn't what I thought it was so that's out.
What is that little fan called that sits on top of the stove that I guess runs off the heat of the stove?

You guys are Great, I appreciate all of your help. I'll be sure to give you credit when I install it at mom's.

Bryan
 
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begreen said:
Ixnay on the Magic Heat. You definitely don't want or need one on that stove. The Caframo EcoFan is the little stove heat powered fan. What was the main complaint about the Drolet blower?

For comparison pricing try www.woodstovepro.com. I have ordered DuraVent piping from dynamite buys (now woodstovepro) and been satisfied with their pricing and shipping.
http://www.woodstovepro.com/store/Chimney-Pipe-Venting-Pipe/Wood-All-Fuel-Piping/6-inch-c154/
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I think that it was noisy. I've read so many reviews lately I'm burning out. Maybe I should just go ahead and order it.
 
It's variable speed so I would try running at a medium to low speed to keep the noise down if it is bothersome on high speed. Circulating heat may be a whole nuther conversation depending on how the house is designed and where the stove is located.
 
begreen said:
It's variable speed so I would try running at a medium to low speed to keep the noise down if it is bothersome on high speed. Circulating heat may be a whole nuther conversation depending on how the house is designed and where the stove is located.
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I'm calling them back to order it. Thanks for that info, and thank you again for suggesting that stove.
 
Bryan - you sure are making some good choices, compare your prices against the dura vent and super vent, either or they are very reliable, don't forget about a poly chimney brush and rods for cleaning.
The stove blower situation - since its on back order run the stove without it, if your not getting the heat distribution you like get a cheap box fan from walmart and play with that, there have been numerous posts about eco fans, they really don't create the blowing effect that users want, a guess its a bit of a novelty item.
More seriously though, now's the time to talk wood supply, what do you have stocked? You may want to buy a moisture meter and test some of your supply out, ideally you will want moisture readings <20% on fresh split pieces. If you don't have a good wood supply you may want to consider ordering compressed wood blocks, they are becoming more and more popular they can be found at some stove shops, tractor supply, maybe northern tools, and some select lumber yards, generally speaking a full pallet of these blocks will run between $230.00 - $300.00 a full pallet is equal to 1 cord of wood, these blocks are also good to use and mix with wood that maybe over the 25% threshold.
As always if you run into any questions feel free to ask them here, It maybe a good idea to look at a few chimney install video's on youtube before you do yours so you can see what your getting into, there are a few video's from pro companies that a fantastic and take the guess work out of the install, and of course since its youtube there are hack jobs posted to.
 
Thanks Kenny, good ideas and I'll have to look in to those soon. Tonight I need to check out the chimney stuff and get things ordered.
That moisture meter is interesting. I know there is a big stack of wet wood in mom's back yard but I don't know how much seasoned wood there is.
I have already brought up the fact that we have to get some good seasoned wood and they can't use the wet. My sister is looking into that.
Are those meters expensive?
 
Wow, those stove pipe web sites are overwhelming! I'm not sure what to choose or how much stove pipe that goes from the stove to the through the ceiling to get. I know I want double wall insulated and I guess that is a ceramic insulator. Do I need a damper and do I need a special coupler to get that pipe to fit between the stove and the ceiling? Can you give me some advice on that?

To try to clarify, when I am installing the black stove pipe after it's been cut to length, can I push the pipe up into the ceiling enough so I'll have clearance at the bottom to get over the lip of the stove ring?
Did that make sense?

Bryan
 
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No damper probably needed. Yes, there is often an adapter to connect the stove pipe to the chimney pipe at the ceiling support box. Make your life easy and include a telescoping piece of stove pipe that will provide an easy solution to the last question. The pipe slips up to place the stove then slips down to make the connection.

What brand pipe? If DuraVent's DuraTech chimney and DVL stovepipe, go to their website, they have excellent installation guides.
http://www.duravent.com/docs/product/L150_W.pdf
http://www.duravent.com/docs/product/l923_w.pdf
http://www.duravent.com/docs/product/l114_w.pdf

This may also help
http://www.northlineexpress.com/dura-tech-help.html
 
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I'm not 100% certain but you may need an appliance adapter for the stove collar hook up also, what ever brand you go with buy the adapter, you can always return it.
The moisture meter in only $25.00, its a life saver especially if your new to the wood burning game. I'm here to warn you early, this stove or really any new epa certified stove will give you problems if your fuel is to wet, wood that feels and looks dry maybe to wet to burn properly in the newer stoves, that's why the meter helps, there is a big difference in burning / smoke from 28% moisture content to 20% and even down to 15% for that matter.
Figure this, if you have a 10lb piece of wood that has 20% moisture content 2lbs of that wood is just water, what do firemen use to put out fires? water.
 
begreen said:
No damper probably needed. Yes, there is often an adapter to connect the stove pipe to the chimney pipe at the ceiling support box. Make your life easy and include a telescoping piece of stove pipe that will provide an easy solution to the last question. The pipe slips up to place the stove then slips down to make the connection.

What brand pipe? If DuraVent's DuraTech chimney and DVL stovepipe, go to their website, they have excellent installation guides.
http://www.duravent.com/docs/product/L150_W.pdf
http://www.duravent.com/docs/product/l923_w.pdf
http://www.duravent.com/docs/product/l114_w.pdf

This may also help
http://www.northlineexpress.com/dura-tech-help.html
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begreen, that is awesome! I watched a couple of the videos and printed out the pdfs to read later.

It is making more sense now, thank you. Now I just hope I have access to the attic area above this room,
the room is an add-on. And I need to remember the insulation shield.

Great!

Bryan
 
kennyp2339 said:
I'm not 100% certain but you may need an appliance adapter for the stove collar hook up also, what ever brand you go with buy the adapter, you can always return it.
The moisture meter in only $25.00, its a life saver especially if your new to the wood burning game. I'm here to warn you early, this stove or really any new epa certified stove will give you problems if your fuel is to wet, wood that feels and looks dry maybe to wet to burn properly in the newer stoves, that's why the meter helps, there is a big difference in burning / smoke from 28% moisture content to 20% and even down to 15% for that matter.
Figure this, if you have a 10lb piece of wood that has 20% moisture content 2lbs of that wood is just water, what do firemen use to put out fires? water.
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Good points on the water. Where do I get the moisture meter?
 
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