cimbo190 said:stoveguy2esw said:i still think they simply did not have the time after starting back up to build enough ahead and with orders flying in at record pace they were just flat unable to run what they would have to run. as i stated before its hard to start up from being shut down. when i first started at ESW we would shut down to bare minimums keeping key personnel and use the winter for maintenance while building very few stoves, we would start very slowly , increasing as we added more people back to the production line , bought more steel and parts from vendors etc. if harman shut down totally , then they would not have had inbound parts in the pipeline , workers would have been laid off and possibly moved to other jobs, training new workers takes time too. im not trying to paint a prettier picture on it but i can understand why they do not have the product , they simply could not get geared up fast enough to make enough product for this season. now had it been a slow year yeah they may have been able to pull it off , but demand is stupid high this year and with the shutdown they lost too much time and probably a lot of their trained workforce. its just too much to overcome.
From the sound of that - which is very palusible, I am not sure a Harman would still be a Harman anymore.
and you know , that may be part of it. maybe they are pulling the plug due to the extra time it will take to get their normal excellent quality of product and they do not want to lower that standard. im not sure how they are set up but they may not be designed as a factory for that kind of production anyway. we are set up in such a way that we can maintain quality standards at a high volume. they may not be set up that way , not to mention retraining on top of that.