Englander PDVC Lots of Ash

Chris04626 said:

In a 12 hour time frame roughly my burn pot has quite alot of ash in it maybe a couple inches thick

Im running the stove on D setting right now with a 5-4-1 on bottom buttons and 2-3 on the top settings

This is burning athens pellets i just got from the guy in Jay which were made 6-7-2010 according to the friendly people at Athens Pellet Company

My Glass is also quite dirty in this time frame also.

I have burned 3 brands so far with my stove first Year Spruce Pointe second year Pennintons and so far this season Athens It has been pretty much the same

ANy tips on adjusting settings or anything i could try?

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Chris04626 said:

In a 12 hour time frame roughly my burn pot has quite alot of ash in it maybe a couple inches thick

Im running the stove on D setting right now with a 5-4-1 on bottom buttons and 2-3 on the top settings

This is burning athens pellets i just got from the guy in Jay which were made 6-7-2010 according to the friendly people at Athens Pellet Company

My Glass is also quite dirty in this time frame also.

I have burned 3 brands so far with my stove first Year Spruce Pointe second year Pennintons and so far this season Athens It has been pretty much the same

ANy tips on adjusting settings or anything i could try?

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Chris04626 said:

.....Id like it to burn better less ash in the pot glass not getting as dirty. And burn the least amout of pelelts i can while maintain enough heat.....I have burned 3 brands so far with my stove first Year Spruce Pointe second year Pennintons and so far this season Athens It has been pretty much the same

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imacman said:

Chris04626 said:

.....Id like it to burn better less ash in the pot glass not getting as dirty. And burn the least amout of pelelts i can while maintain enough heat.....I have burned 3 brands so far with my stove first Year Spruce Pointe second year Pennintons and so far this season Athens It has been pretty much the same

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Since the PDVC doesn't have an ash pan, the ash is always going to build-up in the firebox. As for the glass, the lower burn settings will usually result in the glass getting dirty faster.

Since nothing has changed from the first year to now, I guess you're getting all you can out of that little stove....

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Res5cue said:

Sure hope these are better than '08, just ordered 5 ton. I’ll be hurting if they burn like the ’08 version, they burned like trash. If they haven’t improved by now, I’ll never buy them again.

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the 25 pushes the ash off the front of the burnpot by the incoming pellets. the ash somewhat plugs the front holes of the burnplate & more air has to come where the new pellets are entering the burnpot. The air is tuned so that the maximum flame has adequate combustion air for "efficient" combustion & when the flame gets smaller, at the same burn settting, excess combustion air is inevitable. Adjusting the air [+] so u get a clean glass will result in more excess air to better deliver the heat outdoor....ithinx

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Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

the 25 pushes the ash off the front of the burnpot by the incoming pellets. the ash somewhat plugs the front holes of the burnplate & more air has to come where the new pellets are entering the burnpot. The air is tuned so that the maximum flame has adequate combustion air for "efficient" combustion & when the flame gets smaller, at the same burn settting, excess combustion air is inevitable. Adjusting the air [+] so u get a clean glass will result in more excess air to better deliver the heat outdoor....ithinx

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My question is how long are you going before cleaning off your ware plate? Also what color would you say your ash content is; gray, dark gray an crusty. If so that mean #1 There is a lack of combustable air in return your not going to be able to burn up what you are feeding it efficiantly. Is the air intake hooked up? Also what are you bottom three buttons set on ( which these should never be played with unless you are advised to)? There are alot to be assumed when questioning how this stove is operating. Also what do you run your heat range and blower speed on?? Point is before going any further you need to make sure your stove is basically in ment condition when firing up for the new season. Never hesitate to clean it, and properly.

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~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

the 25 pushes the ash off the front of the burnpot by the incoming pellets. the ash somewhat plugs the front holes of the burnplate & more air has to come where the new pellets are entering the burnpot. The air is tuned so that the maximum flame has adequate combustion air for "efficient" combustion & when the flame gets smaller, at the same burn settting, excess combustion air is inevitable. Adjusting the air [+] so u get a clean glass will result in more excess air to better deliver the heat outdoor....ithinx

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My question is how long are you going before cleaning off your ware plate? Also what color would you say your ash content is; gray, dark gray an crusty. If so that mean #1 There is a lack of combustable air in return your not going to be able to burn up what you are feeding it efficiantly. Is the air intake hooked up? Also what are you bottom three buttons set on ( which these should never be played with unless you are advised to)? There are alot to be assumed when questioning how this stove is operating. Also what do you run your heat range and blower speed on?? Point is before going any further you need to make sure your stove is basically in ment condition when firing up for the new season. Never hesitate to clean it, and properly.

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https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/60334/ this is my setup + insulated top of coverplate for smoother burn. bottom buttons are 9-1-9. temp sensor is relocated to screw on top of exhaust blower which is cut down to ~30w with a light dimmer. exhaust temp is ~212f outdoor reading of inner pipe with IR gun. added baffle blocks top left half of exhaust channel on top of inner stove.
stove aint primo as i have previously drilled holes burning whatever so i had to replace the exhaust blower. the replacement blower was different from original & used more watts!
ash in bpot crumbles & is ash. cleaned it once to see if it made a diff in the flame & dont think so. plan to let er run when colder. room blower @3 for quiet & 4 for noise+?
i dont rrecommend this to any1, just my game

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Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

the 25 pushes the ash off the front of the burnpot by the incoming pellets. the ash somewhat plugs the front holes of the burnplate & more air has to come where the new pellets are entering the burnpot. The air is tuned so that the maximum flame has adequate combustion air for "efficient" combustion & when the flame gets smaller, at the same burn settting, excess combustion air is inevitable. Adjusting the air [+] so u get a clean glass will result in more excess air to better deliver the heat outdoor....ithinx

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My question is how long are you going before cleaning off your ware plate? Also what color would you say your ash content is; gray, dark gray an crusty. If so that mean #1 There is a lack of combustable air in return your not going to be able to burn up what you are feeding it efficiantly. Is the air intake hooked up? Also what are you bottom three buttons set on ( which these should never be played with unless you are advised to)? There are alot to be assumed when questioning how this stove is operating. Also what do you run your heat range and blower speed on?? Point is before going any further you need to make sure your stove is basically in ment condition when firing up for the new season. Never hesitate to clean it, and properly.

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https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/60334/ this is my setup + insulated top of coverplate for smoother burn. bottom buttons are 9-1-9. temp sensor is relocated to screw on top of exhaust blower which is cut down to ~30w with a light dimmer. exhaust temp is ~212f outdoor reading of inner pipe with IR gun. added baffle blocks top left half of exhaust channel on top of inner stove.
stove aint primo as i have previously drilled holes burning whatever so i had to replace the exhaust blower. the replacement blower was different from original & used more watts!
ash in bpot crumbles & is ash. cleaned it once to see if it made a diff in the flame & dont think so. plan to let er run when colder. room blower @3 for quiet & 4 for noise+?
i dont rrecommend this to any1, just my game

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I must say that out of all the wild stoves I've seen this takes the cake. No pun intended. First of all you are way over feeding, your stove set on 9(low fuel feed) and you have very little if any combustable air coming in to even burn anything at a rate of a 1(low burn air) and the air on temp shoud never be higher that 1, with that being 9 (high) you extend the start up cycle, also your only causing damage to the stove because the room air blower takes so long to come on. I don't see how it even will start up!! Very Dangerous..And the reason the room air blower is so loud is because you have just about cooked it, will only get worse if you continue this outragous act, I must ask that you need to keep the Fire Dept. on Speed Dial cause one day you Will need them. I not being mean, just telling you the facts. And the pics I looked at, this stove is extremely dirty and needs serious help. Gaskets may need replacing ect...May the Lord look over you!!

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~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

the 25 pushes the ash off the front of the burnpot by the incoming pellets. the ash somewhat plugs the front holes of the burnplate & more air has to come where the new pellets are entering the burnpot. The air is tuned so that the maximum flame has adequate combustion air for "efficient" combustion & when the flame gets smaller, at the same burn settting, excess combustion air is inevitable. Adjusting the air [+] so u get a clean glass will result in more excess air to better deliver the heat outdoor....ithinx

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My question is how long are you going before cleaning off your ware plate? Also what color would you say your ash content is; gray, dark gray an crusty. If so that mean #1 There is a lack of combustable air in return your not going to be able to burn up what you are feeding it efficiantly. Is the air intake hooked up? Also what are you bottom three buttons set on ( which these should never be played with unless you are advised to)? There are alot to be assumed when questioning how this stove is operating. Also what do you run your heat range and blower speed on?? Point is before going any further you need to make sure your stove is basically in ment condition when firing up for the new season. Never hesitate to clean it, and properly.

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https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/60334/ this is my setup + insulated top of coverplate for smoother burn. bottom buttons are 9-1-9. temp sensor is relocated to screw on top of exhaust blower which is cut down to ~30w with a light dimmer. exhaust temp is ~212f outdoor reading of inner pipe with IR gun. added baffle blocks top left half of exhaust channel on top of inner stove.
stove aint primo as i have previously drilled holes burning whatever so i had to replace the exhaust blower. the replacement blower was different from original & used more watts!
ash in bpot crumbles & is ash. cleaned it once to see if it made a diff in the flame & dont think so. plan to let er run when colder. room blower @3 for quiet & 4 for noise+?
i dont rrecommend this to any1, just my game

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I must say that out of all the wild stoves I've seen this takes the cake. No pun intended. First of all you are way over feeding, your stove set on 9(low fuel feed) and you have very little if any combustable air coming in to even burn anything at a rate of a 1(low burn air) and the air on temp shoud never be higher that 1, with that being 9 (high) you extend the start up cycle, also your only causing damage to the stove because the room air blower takes so long to come on. I don't see how it even will start up!! Very Dangerous..And the reason the room air blower is so loud is because you have just about cooked it, will only get worse if you continue this outragous act, I must ask that you need to keep the Fire Dept. on Speed Dial cause one day you Will need them. I not being mean, just telling you the facts. And the pics I looked at, this stove is extremely dirty and needs serious help. Gaskets may need replacing ect...May the Lord look over you!!

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Thanx but its burning great, guess u missed the part where i relocated the temp sensor so the last lower 9 setting is crucial so to keep exhaust above 212*f & avoid condensation. I can see the exhaust at the end of the horizontal only flue & no smoke appears. The current configuration forces any embers from the burnpot to hit the glass & metal lip above the door & this has resulted in cutting down the embers that fly out the pipe. I will stick my digital CO detector out & test the exhaust, sometime & 1/2 assed but 4fun.
Scriptures like stove manuals tell us what to do but not why....4that us need a science book

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Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~" date="1287773362 said:

the 25 pushes the ash off the front of the burnpot by the incoming pellets. the ash somewhat plugs the front holes of the burnplate & more air has to come where the new pellets are entering the burnpot. The air is tuned so that the maximum flame has adequate combustion air for "efficient" combustion & when the flame gets smaller, at the same burn settting, excess combustion air is inevitable. Adjusting the air [+] so u get a clean glass will result in more excess air to better deliver the heat outdoor....ithinx

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My question is how long are you going before cleaning off your ware plate? Also what color would you say your ash content is; gray, dark gray an crusty. If so that mean #1 There is a lack of combustable air in return your not going to be able to burn up what you are feeding it efficiantly. Is the air intake hooked up? Also what are you bottom three buttons set on ( which these should never be played with unless you are advised to)? There are alot to be assumed when questioning how this stove is operating. Also what do you run your heat range and blower speed on?? Point is before going any further you need to make sure your stove is basically in ment condition when firing up for the new season. Never hesitate to clean it, and properly.

Click to expand...

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/60334/ this is my setup + insulated top of coverplate for smoother burn. bottom buttons are 9-1-9. temp sensor is relocated to screw on top of exhaust blower which is cut down to ~30w with a light dimmer. exhaust temp is ~212f outdoor reading of inner pipe with IR gun. added baffle blocks top left half of exhaust channel on top of inner stove.
stove aint primo as i have previously drilled holes burning whatever so i had to replace the exhaust blower. the replacement blower was different from original & used more watts!
ash in bpot crumbles & is ash. cleaned it once to see if it made a diff in the flame & dont think so. plan to let er run when colder. room blower @3 for quiet & 4 for noise+?
i dont rrecommend this to any1, just my game

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I must say that out of all the wild stoves I've seen this takes the cake. No pun intended. First of all you are way over feeding, your stove set on 9(low fuel feed) and you have very little if any combustable air coming in to even burn anything at a rate of a 1(low burn air) and the air on temp shoud never be higher that 1, with that being 9 (high) you extend the start up cycle, also your only causing damage to the stove because the room air blower takes so long to come on. I don't see how it even will start up!! Very Dangerous..And the reason the room air blower is so loud is because you have just about cooked it, will only get worse if you continue this outragous act, I must ask that you need to keep the Fire Dept. on Speed Dial cause one day you Will need them. I not being mean, just telling you the facts. And the pics I looked at, this stove is extremely dirty and needs serious help. Gaskets may need replacing ect...May the Lord look over you!!

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Thanx but its burning great, guess u missed the part where i relocated the temp sensor so the last lower 9 setting is crucial so to keep exhaust above 212*f & avoid condensation. I can see the exhaust at the end of the horizontal only flue & no smoke appears. The current configuration forces any embers from the burnpot to hit the glass & metal lip above the door & this has resulted in cutting down the embers that fly out the pipe. I will stick my digital CO detector out & test the exhaust, sometime & 1/2 assed but 4fun.
Scriptures like stove manuals tell us what to do but not why....4that us need a science book

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No I did not miss the part where you said you moved the Termal heat sensor, for it is attached there on all Englanders Pellet models since 04 ish. That does help. Do you realize that the way your running it is not very efficient or safe.. But its your stove and don't say I didn't tell you so when something bad happens as a result. And Englander will not be held accountable because of it. Have a good day!

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~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy" date="1287779610 said:

~*~vvv~*~" date="1287773362 said:

the 25 pushes the ash off the front of the burnpot by the incoming pellets. the ash somewhat plugs the front holes of the burnplate & more air has to come where the new pellets are entering the burnpot. The air is tuned so that the maximum flame has adequate combustion air for "efficient" combustion & when the flame gets smaller, at the same burn settting, excess combustion air is inevitable. Adjusting the air [+] so u get a clean glass will result in more excess air to better deliver the heat outdoor....ithinx

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My question is how long are you going before cleaning off your ware plate? Also what color would you say your ash content is; gray, dark gray an crusty. If so that mean #1 There is a lack of combustable air in return your not going to be able to burn up what you are feeding it efficiantly. Is the air intake hooked up? Also what are you bottom three buttons set on ( which these should never be played with unless you are advised to)? There are alot to be assumed when questioning how this stove is operating. Also what do you run your heat range and blower speed on?? Point is before going any further you need to make sure your stove is basically in ment condition when firing up for the new season. Never hesitate to clean it, and properly.

Click to expand...

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/60334/ this is my setup + insulated top of coverplate for smoother burn. bottom buttons are 9-1-9. temp sensor is relocated to screw on top of exhaust blower which is cut down to ~30w with a light dimmer. exhaust temp is ~212f outdoor reading of inner pipe with IR gun. added baffle blocks top left half of exhaust channel on top of inner stove.
stove aint primo as i have previously drilled holes burning whatever so i had to replace the exhaust blower. the replacement blower was different from original & used more watts!
ash in bpot crumbles & is ash. cleaned it once to see if it made a diff in the flame & dont think so. plan to let er run when colder. room blower @3 for quiet & 4 for noise+?
i dont rrecommend this to any1, just my game

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I must say that out of all the wild stoves I've seen this takes the cake. No pun intended. First of all you are way over feeding, your stove set on 9(low fuel feed) and you have very little if any combustable air coming in to even burn anything at a rate of a 1(low burn air) and the air on temp shoud never be higher that 1, with that being 9 (high) you extend the start up cycle, also your only causing damage to the stove because the room air blower takes so long to come on. I don't see how it even will start up!! Very Dangerous..And the reason the room air blower is so loud is because you have just about cooked it, will only get worse if you continue this outragous act, I must ask that you need to keep the Fire Dept. on Speed Dial cause one day you Will need them. I not being mean, just telling you the facts. And the pics I looked at, this stove is extremely dirty and needs serious help. Gaskets may need replacing ect...May the Lord look over you!!

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Thanx but its burning great, guess u missed the part where i relocated the temp sensor so the last lower 9 setting is crucial so to keep exhaust above 212*f & avoid condensation. I can see the exhaust at the end of the horizontal only flue & no smoke appears. The current configuration forces any embers from the burnpot to hit the glass & metal lip above the door & this has resulted in cutting down the embers that fly out the pipe. I will stick my digital CO detector out & test the exhaust, sometime & 1/2 assed but 4fun.
Scriptures like stove manuals tell us what to do but not why....4that us need a science book

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No I did not miss the part where you said you moved the Termal heat sensor, for it is attached there on all Englanders Pellet models since 04 ish. That does help. Do you realize that the way your running it is not very efficient or safe.. But its your stove and don't say I didn't tell you so when something bad happens as a result. And Englander will not be held accountable because of it. Have a good day!

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" not very efficient or safe" is a blanket statement that says NOTHING. got specific reasons as to why so is why i posted, so i listen for reasons.

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Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~ said:

Fix it Guy said:

~*~vvv~*~" date="1287782070 said:

Fix it Guy" date="1287779610 said:

~*~vvv~*~" date="1287773362 said:

the 25 pushes the ash off the front of the burnpot by the incoming pellets. the ash somewhat plugs the front holes of the burnplate & more air has to come where the new pellets are entering the burnpot. The air is tuned so that the maximum flame has adequate combustion air for "efficient" combustion & when the flame gets smaller, at the same burn settting, excess combustion air is inevitable. Adjusting the air [+] so u get a clean glass will result in more excess air to better deliver the heat outdoor....ithinx

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My question is how long are you going before cleaning off your ware plate? Also what color would you say your ash content is; gray, dark gray an crusty. If so that mean #1 There is a lack of combustable air in return your not going to be able to burn up what you are feeding it efficiantly. Is the air intake hooked up? Also what are you bottom three buttons set on ( which these should never be played with unless you are advised to)? There are alot to be assumed when questioning how this stove is operating. Also what do you run your heat range and blower speed on?? Point is before going any further you need to make sure your stove is basically in ment condition when firing up for the new season. Never hesitate to clean it, and properly.

Click to expand...

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/60334/ this is my setup + insulated top of coverplate for smoother burn. bottom buttons are 9-1-9. temp sensor is relocated to screw on top of exhaust blower which is cut down to ~30w with a light dimmer. exhaust temp is ~212f outdoor reading of inner pipe with IR gun. added baffle blocks top left half of exhaust channel on top of inner stove.
stove aint primo as i have previously drilled holes burning whatever so i had to replace the exhaust blower. the replacement blower was different from original & used more watts!
ash in bpot crumbles & is ash. cleaned it once to see if it made a diff in the flame & dont think so. plan to let er run when colder. room blower @3 for quiet & 4 for noise+?
i dont rrecommend this to any1, just my game

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I must say that out of all the wild stoves I've seen this takes the cake. No pun intended. First of all you are way over feeding, your stove set on 9(low fuel feed) and you have very little if any combustable air coming in to even burn anything at a rate of a 1(low burn air) and the air on temp shoud never be higher that 1, with that being 9 (high) you extend the start up cycle, also your only causing damage to the stove because the room air blower takes so long to come on. I don't see how it even will start up!! Very Dangerous..And the reason the room air blower is so loud is because you have just about cooked it, will only get worse if you continue this outragous act, I must ask that you need to keep the Fire Dept. on Speed Dial cause one day you Will need them. I not being mean, just telling you the facts. And the pics I looked at, this stove is extremely dirty and needs serious help. Gaskets may need replacing ect...May the Lord look over you!!

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Thanx but its burning great, guess u missed the part where i relocated the temp sensor so the last lower 9 setting is crucial so to keep exhaust above 212*f & avoid condensation. I can see the exhaust at the end of the horizontal only flue & no smoke appears. The current configuration forces any embers from the burnpot to hit the glass & metal lip above the door & this has resulted in cutting down the embers that fly out the pipe. I will stick my digital CO detector out & test the exhaust, sometime & 1/2 assed but 4fun.
Scriptures like stove manuals tell us what to do but not why....4that us need a science book

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No I did not miss the part where you said you moved the Termal heat sensor, for it is attached there on all Englanders Pellet models since 04 ish. That does help. Do you realize that the way your running it is not very efficient or safe.. But its your stove and don't say I didn't tell you so when something bad happens as a result. And Englander will not be held accountable because of it. Have a good day!

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" not very efficient or safe" is a blanket statement that says NOTHING. got specific reasons as to why so is why i posted, so i listen for reasons.

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This stove was not designed to operate in such a manner your trying to run it at. Therefore the way your running it is not safe and just because you move the thermal heat sensor, you do get a true reading as far as exhaust temps go but the stove will evenually get so hot its not safe because your only causing external damage but more importantly internal damage to the components. If you think it works for you than I truely wish you the best, and be safe. What I have stated is not a blanket statement its all factual. I have to much experience with these stoves to know better! I wouldn't ever advised anyone to do this. Thats just the way it is. Ask Mike Holton and see if he agrees...

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