New to this site and wanted to say it has the most information I have seen on the subject of woodburning. My question. We are building a masonary fireplace in my home. Approximately 48"wide, 36"tall, 24"deep. The masonary chimney will be straight approximately 25' high running up through the central part of the house. My bricklayer is strongly suggesting using the clay tile liner inside this. He said they last forever. Everything I have read suggests using one of the rigid liners and I dont see near as much talk about the clay tiles. On a side note, I have about 28' of the supermaxx triple wall pipe that is two years old. Would this be an effective safe pipe to use inside the masonary chimney? Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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pgmr
Feeling the Heat
A clay liner is the traditional (only?) liner for a masonry fireplace/chimney. A manufactured fireplace will use a metal liner inside a chase.
cmonSTART
Minister of Fire
Use a nice 10 or 11 inch stainless liner. Clay liners aren't worth the clay their made of. They crack, are usually poorly installed with the wrong mortar, and end up costing thousands down the road to repair. I've done two this winter on traditional masonry fireplaces.
Also, if you're build this insist on the proper mortar being used for the firebox, along with actual firebrick in the firebox. Follow building code and clearances, etc.
Also, if you're build this insist on the proper mortar being used for the firebox, along with actual firebrick in the firebox. Follow building code and clearances, etc.
cmonSTART
Minister of Fire
cmonSTART
Minister of Fire
I knew I would get some good advice from you guys! Thanks....Any reccomendations as to where is a good place to purchase this?
For the record, my 3 flue chimney with clay liners lasted 30 years + before I had to run a liner through one. In the one that failed water had gotten in between the liner and the brick and cracked the liner. I'm still not convinced I did the right thing by having the SS liner installed. The one servicing my wood heater in the basement is still functioning well. The other I've never used but is in good shape. A well built and maintained chimney with clay liners will last a life time.
Your bricklayer is not leading you astray. Also, I expect he will be there for you if his recommendations/work do not work out for you, how 'bout the internet guy who has no skin in the game?
Just sayin'......
Your bricklayer is not leading you astray. Also, I expect he will be there for you if his recommendations/work do not work out for you, how 'bout the internet guy who has no skin in the game?
Just sayin'......
hard rockmaple... thank you...And yes, he is a good friend and his whole family has been in the business for many years...I call him the brick whisperer!
thfdman said:
Then you should trust him. I'm sure the "brick whisperer" will build it right for you, if not, make him. :coolsmile:
And, for clarification; no disrespect meant to anyone here, but my mothers clay lined chimney is still puffin' smoke after 50 years of faithful service.
kind rgds.
berlin
New Member
If installed properly, and, provided you don't have a chimney fire, a clay liner will outlast stainless by decades.
cmonSTART
Minister of Fire
I disagree with the above. About 75% of the masonry flues I inspect, whether old or constructed within the past several years, have some sort of defect in the liner due to either wear and tear of what the builder/mason though was proper construction. A lot result from water entry into the system, some from fire. That is much less likely to be the case with a good rigid stainless liner.
I would love to inspect a 50 year old masonry flue and not find an important defect. It doesn't happen. Period.
Just sayin'......
I think we may have to agree to disagree on this one.
I would love to inspect a 50 year old masonry flue and not find an important defect. It doesn't happen. Period.
Just sayin'......
I think we may have to agree to disagree on this one.
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