Chimney Liner Install Questions

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KevinACrider

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Jan 1, 2011
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Central PA
I'm installing my new 13-NCI on Saturday and have 2 remaining questions.

1. I'd prefer to use a nut and bolt or a rivet instead of the machine screws supplied with my liner and stove adapter. Being that they are both stainless steel, does my hardware have to be stainless steel as well?

2. When inserting the stove adapter into the top of the insert, does it just rest inside the hole? There doesn't seem to be any way of attaching it to the stove, so I just want to double check.

Everything else I was able to search for and find my answers. Thank you!
 
Your hardware should certainly be stainless steel. The advantage of the screws is they are easier to remove if needed, but many rigid liners use stainless rivets to connect them.

As for connecting the liner to the stove, give the instructions a read. Page 4 says this:

B. Venting Your Insert
Direct Connect
When this unit is direct connected it will require six inch (6â€) diameter 24 gauge pipe from the stove
through the damper opening. (NOTE: The chimney connector must be attached to the appliance
with a minimum of three (3) screws, and 3 screws should be used to attach each adjoining
section.) This will make it necessary to block off the open area on both sides of the pipe that passes
through the damper opening, which can be done with sheet metal or by packing flame retardant
fiberglass insulation in the open areas (no paper or combustibles). You must be sure the draft from
the chimney is being pulled through the stove, and not around the connector pipe. (See Illustration 3
and “Backplate Instructionsâ€). We highly recommend you have this done by a professional. You
should contact your local authorities to be sure you are following all codes.

Unfortunately, the heading refers to a direct connect (partial loner) vice full liner install, and there is no picture (could be better, but..). If you can't find where to screw the screws, give them a call. Pretty helpful folks as I understand it.
 
Thank you for the reply. As for attaching the liner to the appliance, this is going to be tough. The lip sticking out above the top of the stove is barely 1/8" inch. I'll give them a call this afternoon.
 
I'm able to get the stove adapter seated in the ring, there just isn't much room on the lip to attach them. As far as the inside, I can't even get to the hole from the inside. There is some white material on the top of the stove preventing me from getting to it.
 
KevinACrider said:
I'm able to get the stove adapter seated in the ring, there just isn't much room on the lip to attach them. As far as the inside, I can't even get to the hole from the inside. There is some white material on the top of the stove preventing me from getting to it.

you could attach L shaped tabs to stove with screws, then once the pipe in installed, zip screws thru the L and into the pipe/connector
 
KevinACrider said:
I'm able to get the stove adapter seated in the ring, there just isn't much room on the lip to attach them. As far as the inside, I can't even get to the hole from the inside. There is some white material on the top of the stove preventing me from getting to it.

You need to give your instructions a good reading, then call Englander. If you remove the baffle, you should have complete access to the flue from inside the stove. Removing the baffle is usually done every year when cleaning.

If you can't figure out how to connect it, call a pro.
 
As long as the liner fits inside the ring of the stove you should be OK. What can knock it off?
 
I got the adapter attached to the stove. There was enough of a lip to rivet it onto.

However, the depth is the problem now. I saw someone else either bought or made an adapter because their liner came down too far to the back of the firebox than it needed. What is this called and where can I find it?
 
Why on earth rivets instead of screws? All of us have been doing it wrong? All 3 stoves I have I have used screws for everything except for the Druraliner inside the chimney. What are you going to do when you need to pull it out, drill out the rivets and reinstall new ones?
 
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