why no large contemporary wood stoves

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dexmcdan

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I have not seen any larger contemporary wood stoves, something with a big fire box 4 cu.ft. or so that can heat a large area, 3000 sq.ft. or so. Is there a good reason for that or is this just not something there is not a market for? I have talked to a least one custom stove maker but the price for a custom stove is around 3 to 4 times a stock stove. Any thoughts on this issue.

Dwain
 

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I'm going to guess and say part of getting past the EPA test is having a smaller firebox. I don't really know any details of the test but there must be something about that. First thing I noticed about EPA stoves was the size. I realize now there were plenty of small pre EPA stoves but I would guess the average size now is much smaller. One stove that can still be had larger is the ELM. A 36" model is around 6cuft firebox.
 
Regency will be putting out another contemporary wood stove with the f2400 firebox.

Same as the 1200 Alterra (f1100 box), just bigger(f2400 box)


Something to look out for.
 
These big stoves require an 8in flue and the market any more (with so many SS liners being installed) I think lends itself more towards a 6in flue stove.

If I wanted an 8 in flue stove (which I could use like a BKK) I'd have to tear my brick chimney down and start over. My fisher was an 8in exhaust and vented into a 7 1/4 x 7 1/4 liner. No way to line that w/ SS round pipe to be able to handle an 8in stove anymore so I sold the fisher and bought an englander 30.

I bet MANY people are in a similar boat and that probably is part of the reason the market leans this way.

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I don't even want to be in the same county when somebody does the charring burn in a five cubic foot or over EPA non-cat. That sucker better be made out of titanium.
 
dex said:
I have not seen any larger contemporary wood stoves, something with a big fire box 4 cu.ft. or so that can heat a large area, 3000 sq.ft. or so. Dwain
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They exist, I can think of at least one, right of the top of my head.
http://jaroby.com/index.php?page=fiche&no=26&cat=1

And there are more out there, I can't remember which ones.
 
Jimbob said:
dex said:
I have not seen any larger contemporary wood stoves, something with a big fire box 4 cu.ft. or so that can heat a large area, 3000 sq.ft. or so. Dwain
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They exist, I can think of at least one, right of the top of my head.
http://jaroby.com/index.php?page=fiche&no=26&cat=1

And there are more out there, I can't remember which ones.
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And I can not figure out why in all the years this forum has been here not one person that has ever seen one in person, much less owned one, has ever shown up. Tis a mystery.

Somebody always comes up with the link a few times every year, but nobody that has the dang stoves.
 
Doesn't have the cft you're looking for but what about the Pacific Energy Summit? It advertises that it heats 3,000 sft. It keeps my 2200 sft basement 75-84* with no problem and when I turn off the first floor heat it only drops about a degree per 3-4 hours at 20*F outside air.
 
There is way bigger world out there than this forum Bart. Just like I'm the only person I know (and I know plenty) that is heating with an EPA stove and I'm a newby to EPA. In fact I only even know where one maybe EPA stove is besides mine but its an older VC so probably not.
 
wkpoor said:
There is way bigger world out there than this forum Bart.
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Mystery solved.
 
wk, there is a much bigger world out there than Amanda, OH. Locally, most stoves are EPA.
 
wkpoor said:
There is way bigger world out there than this forum Bart. Just like I'm the only person I know (and I know plenty) that is heating with an EPA stove and I'm a newby to EPA. In fact I only even know where one maybe EPA stove is besides mine but its an older VC so probably not.
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Ya don't know anybody that owns a stove built after 1988? Fascinating.
 
Its probably a geographical thing. I live in farm country. If someone around here has a stove they bought it 30-50yrs ago and couldn't see spending more than a couple hundred bucks on any stove. Honestly when I was seriously thinking about upgrading stoves I couldn't find a single person in this township with a newer EPA stove. They all have old smoke dragons. Found 2 of those Nashuas though within a few miles of my house. Whats the chances of that? And sold them quite easily.
 
I'll go one better, I don't know a single person who knows what an EPA stove even is unless I educated them myself. Most people just aren't "into" stoveology. I wasn't. Heck I owned one for 3yrs in the crate and had no idea it was an EPA stove with secondary burn nor did I know what that even was. To me it was just another stove. Wasn't till I got anal about all this stuff I realized what I had.
 
BrotherBart said:
Jimbob said:
dex said:
I have not seen any larger contemporary wood stoves, something with a big fire box 4 cu.ft. or so that can heat a large area, 3000 sq.ft. or so. Dwain
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They exist, I can think of at least one, right of the top of my head.
http://jaroby.com/index.php?page=fiche&no=26&cat=1

And there are more out there, I can't remember which ones.
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And I can not figure out why in all the years this forum has been here not one person that has ever seen one in person, much less owned one, has ever shown up. Tis a mystery.

Somebody always comes up with the link a few times every year, but nobody that has the dang stoves.
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One person on here mentions having one:

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/52610/#687372
 
wkpoor said:
I'll go one better, I don't know a single person who knows what an EPA stove even is unless I educated them myself. Most people just aren't "into" stoveology. I wasn't. Heck I owned one for 3yrs in the crate and had no idea it was an EPA stove with secondary burn nor did I know what that even was. To me it was just another stove. Wasn't till I got anal about all this stuff I realized what I had.
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I understand. Until I found this place in 2005 looking for info on a trailer load of Jotul gas stoves I bought I didn’t even know that EPA stoves existed. Or chimney liners for that matter and I had wished for those things since 1985. But the fact remains that if anybody bought a stove after 1988 it was either certified or one of the few exempt ones.

Even after I found this place and lined the chimney I didn’t plan to buy a EPA stove for another year. Until the old one busted in the first month of the heating season. That liner sent it over the moon.
 
Jimbob said:
One person on here mentions having one:
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Yeah I forgot about him. Looked like an ad when he posted.
 
Hi Dwain, and welcome.

What do you mean by contemporary?

The Blaze King King advertises a 4.27 cu. ft. fire box.

EDIT: There are others too--Hearthstone Equinox, Buck, etc. Most require an 8" pipe.
 
Our 1st 7yrs of heating with wood was with a homemade unit givin to us by my FIL as maybe kind of house warming gift for our new house. We thought we had a real cadillac there buddy. "nobody had a stove like we did alrighty now" lololll Well after a while I got tired of the door warping itself tight only when the stove was hot, the top sagging down, and the baffle falling in on the fire. The Nashua was a sure upgrade and cheap.

It was almost like no one ever bought new wood stoves, they were always a hand me down item. Never even ever occurred to me that you could actually go to a store and buy one new....guess cause I never saw a new one in my life....honest. Tell we saw them in TSC that one day 3yrs ago. You mean to say there are stores that sell them there things new!!! I ain't far off ya know.
 
I feel the same way, i really dont think the big box stores carried stoves up to recently (last 5-10 yrs) once oil went through the roof. I dont remember walking into Lowes or TSC that many years ago and seeing a whole range of stoves to choose from. i ended up ordering mine from Northern Tool cause i wanted one that would take up to 20" logs and everything around my area was only around 16" logs. So i settled for EPA exempt one, but for the way i burn it has been perfect. I go through a little more wood and have to reload faster, but it keeps my house warmer than oil and will save me about $1200 in oil this winter.
 
My Buck 91 is listed as 4.4 cu. ft. and I need binoculars to see the back side of the firebox.
 
I have never seen a woodstove in a big box store in Florida....lots of firepits, chimeas and electric stoves though.
 
Probably not much of a market for wood stoves amongst the wealthy that can afford to live in a 4000ft2 + mansion....
 
I think I may have found the largest wood stove ever manufactured.

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/663

An antique-style wood-burning stove that weighs 15 tons and stands 25 feet high.

Now, how could a person get that in their basement and is it an EPA? :coolsmile:
 
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