I am getting ready to do my first sweep of my liner. I had the stove installed by someone else and I was not there when he did it so I dont really know how the liner is fastened to the insert. I hear everyone talk about how hard it is to move the brush up and down the liner. I am guessing the fit must be snug if you want to do get the gunk off. My question is, is it possible to pull the liner off the insert by sweeping it?
Liner sweeping question. Can it dislodge?
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Fsappo
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It is very possible to pull the liner off of the insert. If the liner wasnt attached with some kind of L Bracker or something, I would pull the surround off and have someone either hold the bottom of the liner or at least keep an eye on it
PLAYS WITH FIRE
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That is what I do. I have the wifey hold the flex liner that is screwed to a stainless steel adapter. It should hold well but if it rips out then we have problems. My poly brush is quite snug and she says it does not move but I would rather be safe and not sorry!
Which do you have? In one place you say stove & in another you say insert...
If you have a stove, you should be able to see the attachment points.
If it's an insert, you should be able to remove the surround & look at the
attachment points.
For safety, & if your installer wasn't certified or was simply a DIYer, the
liner should be attached to an adapter & the adapter should be attached to the insert/stove.
The liner should also be attached to the cap plate on your chimney.
That'll make a nice, rigid, SAFE set-up that you can clean aggressively if needed...
If you have a stove, you should be able to see the attachment points.
If it's an insert, you should be able to remove the surround & look at the
attachment points.
For safety, & if your installer wasn't certified or was simply a DIYer, the
liner should be attached to an adapter & the adapter should be attached to the insert/stove.
The liner should also be attached to the cap plate on your chimney.
That'll make a nice, rigid, SAFE set-up that you can clean aggressively if needed...
tfdchief
Minister of Fire
My liner attached to the stove collar in my insert with an "appliance adapter" that is screwed to the stove collar and then secures the S/S liner with a "radiator hose clamp" type of band. I cannot remove my insert surround as it is attached to the insert itself. So, I worry about that every time I sweep. Each time, after sweeping, I have looked up through the damper, into the chimney and can see that it "appears" to be still solidly attached. Always worry about it though.
The surround should be attached with screws so you CAN remove it for inspection of the
liner & its attachment points. Even SS liners will begin to fail over a period of time,
& if you haven't looked at since install, you might want to for peace of mind & safety's sake...
liner & its attachment points. Even SS liners will begin to fail over a period of time,
& if you haven't looked at since install, you might want to for peace of mind & safety's sake...
tfdchief
Minister of Fire
Well, DAKSY, it is, but.....my insert is a 1982 Buck 26000 and the surround IS screwed to the insert, behind the insert, before it is pushed back into the fireplace. The stove stack boot, attaached to the lower end of S/S liner is attached with T bolt connectors at the stove outlet (rectangular) from inside the stove after being placed back in the fireplace opening. So, the only way to check is as I described in my last post. Of course when I originally installed it in 1982 it was not direct connected. But with the advent of flex S/S liners, and the fact that the buck was made to use as a freestanding stove as well, and it had this great T-bolt stack connection built right in, it was pretty easy for me to line my chimney and connect it when the new products came out. I know, it is an old stove, old like me, and we still love each other, and keep each other warm. ;-PDAKSY said:
Yeah, I have an insert. A Rockland 550. It was professionally installed but I have learned over the years that does not always mean much. Trust but verify has always worked for me. Understanding that I am not the only one with this concern are the systems that connect to a drill (ie sooteater) less prone to pull?
snowtime
Minister of Fire
Of course having a properly attached liner is the obvious move but if you still want to be a little easier on the pulling forces then get a sooteater. Its a weedwacker on flexible rods. It relies on beating the creosote off not a super tight pull. So less chance of pulling apart. I love mine.
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