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Posted By metalsped,
Dec 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM
And is this pretty much the same stove as the F50 Rangeley? Looks like it...
Looks like a larger version of the F50 stove.. I like this stove! Couldn't find info on the firebox at Jotul site. Wonder what the MSRP is going to be.. The warranty looks great too. Very similar to the T5 I run here..
Firebox is listed as 2.95. They were able to raise the baffle since it doesnt have a a top load mechanism. The foot print is exactly the same as the
TL-50. MSRP is $2,199.00. The other difference is there is not an ash pan on the F-55.
That is a big stove! Does that MSRP include the cast iron skin? If so that's a decent price.. Ash pans are something I don't care about and don't use on my T5..
It is only offer with cast sides. They have discontinued the steel sides for both TL-50 and F-55.
That is a decent deal then! I like the idea of a welded steel firebox with cast iron exterior! No seams that need resealing with the look of cast iron and the main reason I liked the Aldealea stove line from PE..
The 55 was on my short list, sounds like a solid low maintenance stove. Ash pans usually require more gasket involvement also. Todd
It also only requires ember protection... I just wish it was a cat stove
I have been running an F55 since October. I do not think the stove is as large as some perceive it to be. Measured from fire brick to fire brick it is 20 in wide. Measured from firebrick to doghouse air is 18 in. the baffle is tapered up from back to front and at the lowest point it is about 11 in. There are also two protruding firebricks in the back that I will try to get pictures of for you. Using these measurements I get about 2.25 sq ft. I am measuring this relatively conservatively. Should I be measuring to the glass, and also should I include the extra under the tapered baffle? I am heating a two story 1600 sf house in southern Wisconsin. My conservative nature even got the best of me and I decided not to open the door to the upstairs. Don't get me wrong this stove would probably heat a 2000 plus home if ran 24/7. I usually just run the stove once a day when I get home from work. I am happy as I have only used just shy ofa face cord so far. The stove did require some modifying of the secondary air due to strong draft issues. Any particular questions feel free to ask.
No gasket on the T5 ashpan Todd but I don't use it anyway.. Shovel into ashbin works just as well...
Ran a cat stove for 2 decades and like them both for different reasons. I do prefer watching the secondary burns and my burn times are surprisingly long and better than expected..
I have run the F55 for a couple weeks now...sold my Oslo. Like that I can load EW and NS. I'd say the claimed firebox volume is pretty accurate...loading NS I can cram almost 2.5 cu ft (16" splits) on top of a coal bed (~2 cu ft EW). I too have a strong draft and the secondaries have gotten away from me a couple times while burning NS with the air control shut down at ~300* stove top (stove top temps hit 650*-700* for a good hour plus until secondaries started to slow down)...still seeing if I can get better control by shutting down the air sooner to avoid off gassing the whole load at once...possibly a different mix of wood (some of my wood is maybe too dry ~12% moisture). This has not really been a problem though as the outside temps on these nights (in the low teens and upper single digits) warranted the extra heat and the burn time was not significantly affected. It would be nice if the firebox was completely square (as previously mentioned the back firebrick protrudes ~1" into the firebox on each side making the back 4-5" of the firebox ~2" narrower than the front). Loading NS and EW I have not had a problem keeping ~1900 sq ft of my house (built 1980 with average ceiling height ~11-12 ft., somewhere between tight and drafty) toasty on 2 loads/day (ash/maple/cherry/other mixed hardwoods). I get about 8 hours useable heat (stove top >/= 300*) and have no problem starting from coals up to 12 hours later. A few nights ago (with temps in the low teens) I loaded up NS at 8pm with the stove room at 71* (upstairs bedrooms 67* - 70*), was cruising at 500* by 9pm...when I got up at 6am the room temp was 69* (bedrooms ranged from 62*-67*), stove top was ~200 and there were plenty of hot coals to throw in a full load and have her cruising by 7am. I think with a little more time with the stove (possibly a damper to reduce the draft on those really cold nights) this stove will be everything I dreamed it would be...for the price I don't think I could be happier!
Welcome to the forum VT and thanx for the info! Please post some pics of your stove/hearth when you get a chance I suggest burning larger splits to reduce the offgassing and high peaks with good dry hardwoods.. Smaller splits get very hot quickly and can be harder to control.. BTW the T5 firebox is a clean rectangle and loads easily with no obstructions..
How big is your house?
Hi Ray, I have been burning some pretty beefy splits with some success, but even when it got away from me there were 4 splits 6" to 8" in there...I think I'm just new to burning NS after running an Oslo and am still figuring it out. I attached a picture of the stove (not much of a hearth and have to cage her in cause of the little ones). I did look long and hard at the T6, but in the end selling my Oslo almost completely covered the cost of this stove and I didn't have to move any pipe to meet clearances...
Would you be able to take some rough measurements of your firebox for comparative reasons?
Will have to wait until it is not in use Dutch maybe tomorrow?
At your convenience Ray, no hurry at all. I'm just curious whether this stove is closer to the T5 or T6.
I would say it is in between the T5 and T6 but cu. footwise closer to the T6. The T5 is 2 cu. ft. and the T6 is 3 cu. ft. with the T6 being wider and more square than the T5. OK here are the dimensions:
18" deep X 15 1/2" wide X 13" high approximate
I think the T6 is around 18" wide but I will let someone who has one give their info..
I just started running the F50.....had a VC encore cat stove for 7 years before.
So far, I get just as long if not longer burns with the F50 than I did with the encore cat (although the encore is a little smaller). As for me, I never really liked the cat - lots of maintenance and also I had to replace it 3 times until they went to steel (the porcelain ones broke apart), and each time they were expensive.
So in summary, for me I would take the F50 (in your case F55) non-cat stove over the cat stove I had previously any day. Hope this helps and sorry if I offended any cat lovers.
What are you seeing for times Ray?
About 1900. The end of the house that I am looking to put a stove in has one large room, approx 525sq, with 13' cathedral ceilings. I am going to put it just outside of this room (it flows into a common area then into the rest of the house). That large room is probably 50% windows (Ill up a picture at some point)... room definitely chills of. My stoves main purpose will be to heat that room, and of course whatever else I can draft through the house... all the better.
8+ hr. burns is easy with this stove..
You may want to consider the T6 or the Jotul F55 with that size home and it tends to get a bit colder there. Hard to say but the T-5 might work for you.
Just wanted to mention a couple things:
1) just fired up the F55 after 13 hours (loaded EW this morning)...stove top was still at 200*...just shoveled some ash from the front, raked the coals forward, loaded EW and1/2 hour later she is just about cruising! Was warm today so there was no need to push the stove or get the stove top temps up when I got home from work...it's just nice to be able to let her run and not have to worry about getting the fire going from coals.
2) I like the air wash on this thing! The Oslo didn't have an air wash so I have nothing to compare it too, but my glass is clean as new after burning 24/7 for 2 and 1/2 weeks. It is also nice that the primary air hits the entire front of the coal bed and not just in front of the doghouse...it really gets the load lit quick!