I bought a 455 rancher from vminnovations about 4 months ago. Paid under $300 with free shipping. It was a refurb. When I got it I could not tell that it was not brand new. One little scratch by the chain tension screw. It has ran great for me after cutting about 2 cords with it. I also bought a refurb leaf blower from them, and had good success with it as well. Would recommend.