Jags said:
+1 . . . this is a very large place and other than running a couple of woodstoves I question whether even a single Big Boy Woodstove would heat the place adequately.
Best Wood Stove for Large Barn (3000 sq ft)
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+1 . . . this is a very large place and other than running a couple of woodstoves I question whether even a single Big Boy Woodstove would heat the place adequately.
I would recommend 2 Englander 30s 1 at each end and a hell of a pile of wood.
each is rated for 2200 sq ft so a 3000 sq ft barn should be no problem.
but you do have to paint one of then honey-glo-brown and leave the other black so that question would finely be answered.
this option would probably be the most cost effective IMHO
each is rated for 2200 sq ft so a 3000 sq ft barn should be no problem.
but you do have to paint one of then honey-glo-brown and leave the other black so that question would finely be answered.
this option would probably be the most cost effective IMHO
If we are going with two stoves for more firepower and consistent heating, I'll vote two BK's (Princesses or Kings) or WS Fireview if we have to use soapstone stoves sold today. Feeding two stoves can become a fair amount of work and quite eat a lot of wood. Going with cat stoves would minimize the reloading to once or twice a day with the BKs, or two or three times per day with the FV. The BKs also have the automatic thermostat so you wouldn't have to fuss with the air. Non-cat stoves will require more reloading and eat significantly more wood, plus they won't burn as low.
Maybe I should add a wood cook stove in the kitchen and move the other wood stove off center and more to the other end of the building?
Maybe something like the Flame View:
Here's a short video clip that shows the side loading cook stove: http://stovesandmoreonline.com/VideoPreview.html
My wife and I visited a wood stove dealer today and saw both the Hearthstone Equinox and the Buck 91. She really likes the Equinox. I still have to take her to see a Blaze King.
My thanks to all who have posted their advice to this thread.
JH
Maybe something like the Flame View:
Here's a short video clip that shows the side loading cook stove: http://stovesandmoreonline.com/VideoPreview.html
My wife and I visited a wood stove dealer today and saw both the Hearthstone Equinox and the Buck 91. She really likes the Equinox. I still have to take her to see a Blaze King.
My thanks to all who have posted their advice to this thread.
JH
The Caddy furnace is rated at 140,000 btus. Its EPA Certified, and has a 3.5 cubic foot firebox, and a 4 speed direct drive blower. Its something that would look nice in the center of the barn, and you would view the fire also. The blower is a large one, that will push 1400 cfms of air. It would push heat quicker, but also requires ductwork. All the bells and whistles of a stove, with the feel of a furnace.
I like the cook stove and a main heating stove idea. We have both and it enables you to dial in the heat you need when you need it. I know you do not get real cold down there but its a good way to be independent. Power outages will not matter and food tastes better on a wood stove. Some cook stoves put out real heat and have big fireboxes for overnight burn. I like the Pioneer Maid but it might not be fancy enough for your new home. Good luck.
Snowtime: Can I ask how you have your outside/summer kitchen setup? Is it attached to your home? What type of stove do you use outside?
JH
JH
Here is a link to the average monthly temperatures here in Kansas City: http://tinyurl.com/yfwpdce
I'm trying to stay away from active system (blowers. pumps, etc). The simpler the better.
I'm trying to stay away from active system (blowers. pumps, etc). The simpler the better.
First off...electronic bells? Go old school - big bell and a rope = much more fun.
Second - whatever you decide, the person who suggested ceiling fans was on target if some of this is going to be cathedral ceiling / open floorplan. + obviously make sure any coupolas can be buttoned up tight.
You better come back and post some picks of this thing as it is being built / when it is done.
P.S. Sory if someone suggested it and I missed it, but is a masonry heater a possibility? What a perfect application if it is an open floorplan.
Second - whatever you decide, the person who suggested ceiling fans was on target if some of this is going to be cathedral ceiling / open floorplan. + obviously make sure any coupolas can be buttoned up tight.
You better come back and post some picks of this thing as it is being built / when it is done.
P.S. Sory if someone suggested it and I missed it, but is a masonry heater a possibility? What a perfect application if it is an open floorplan.
We are in the bush,off the grid and wood is our main fuel. The summer kitchen is a separate building as a cook stove can heat a house way to much in summer weather. We do most of our canning out there. The stove is a old McClain. It use to be in the house but it will not hold the heat for more than 4 hours as it has a small fire box. The Pioneer maid will burn all night as it is air tight and has a large firebox. Cook stoves are exempt from EPA in most jurisdictions. The pic you show of a cook stove looks interesting. Do a lot of research as many stoves are insulated to reduce the heating in the house. My Pioneer Maid needs lots of clearance so if you look at a new cookstove and it says it does not need much clearance that is a warning it might be insulated to much. Hope this helps.
I went to visit another local wood stove dealer today. He said the "gentle" heat of the soapstone stoves wouldn't be his choice and the Blaze King was of less than stellar quality. He recommended a "better quality" steel stove, the Regency 3100. In reading some of the review on the Regency, it appears they aren't that great a stove. Should I trust this guy or is he just trying to sell me the Regency line because it's the line he carries? Not many Blaze King dealers in Kansas City area so I haven't been able to see one yet.
Again, your advice is greatly appreciated.
JH
Again, your advice is greatly appreciated.
JH
Sounds to me like he's tring to sell what he deals...jhambley said:
Read all the reviews and comments from BK owners, a negative comment about these stoves is very rare! They are well made and have been around for a long time. The basic design of their stoves hasn't changed much at all and there are many of their old models still chugging along today. They burn longer, cleaner, no air to fiddle with, and they can go through a cord of wood w/o having to dump the ashes, plus they put of some heat when they need to (read some of Wolfkiller's posts from last winter).
If I were going to heat your place with wood (assuming you don't want a boiler), two BKs would be at the top of my list, anything else would be a distant second.
Sounds like the dealer is trying to sell you his Regency line. The large Blaze King is a full cubic foot bigger than the largest Regency in the fire box which means more heat output and much longer burns. I think the BK is a good fit along with a large ceiling fan to help distribute the heat.
I'm a little late to this party, but here's my 2 cents:
If it was my place, I would definitely think THERMAL MASS with a large stone or brick chimney to hold onto the heat from any of the strong burning BIG box wood stoves available.
This is how they do it in the north of Finland and Norway, even Scotland, as you get near the arctic circle - their whole house is built around a large heat storage thermal mass of rock or brick chimney. Once heated by your large stove, you're set for the winter.
Unfortunately over here in Natural gas heaven, where the powers that be are very keen on keeping everyone hooked into scrawny forced air furnaces and wood burning systems that demand skinny cold steel pipes with no thermal retention capacity, unlike the sensible folks in Scandinavia, you may run into issues with your local bylaws in your chimney venting rules and regulations, that may make it more difficult to create a radiant, thermal mass storage chimney.
Nevertheless, if you want to really enhance the power of any big stove, and create an awesome core of radiance in your home, think central chimney for thermal mass storage - large good stove - and ceiling fans to keep the upstairs air blowing back down.
In a better world, we'd also be allowed to use wood to heat our hydronic floor systems. just like they can with their dozens of great looking free standing wood stoves/boilers in Europe. But I digress - Just stepping out now to grind my axe ;-)
If it was my place, I would definitely think THERMAL MASS with a large stone or brick chimney to hold onto the heat from any of the strong burning BIG box wood stoves available.
This is how they do it in the north of Finland and Norway, even Scotland, as you get near the arctic circle - their whole house is built around a large heat storage thermal mass of rock or brick chimney. Once heated by your large stove, you're set for the winter.
Unfortunately over here in Natural gas heaven, where the powers that be are very keen on keeping everyone hooked into scrawny forced air furnaces and wood burning systems that demand skinny cold steel pipes with no thermal retention capacity, unlike the sensible folks in Scandinavia, you may run into issues with your local bylaws in your chimney venting rules and regulations, that may make it more difficult to create a radiant, thermal mass storage chimney.
Nevertheless, if you want to really enhance the power of any big stove, and create an awesome core of radiance in your home, think central chimney for thermal mass storage - large good stove - and ceiling fans to keep the upstairs air blowing back down.
In a better world, we'd also be allowed to use wood to heat our hydronic floor systems. just like they can with their dozens of great looking free standing wood stoves/boilers in Europe. But I digress - Just stepping out now to grind my axe ;-)
Re Masonry Heater
Tarbot has the idea. Nice work! Didn't know there were any masonry builders like that left here in North America.
Centre of the home - the radiant meeting place where family and friends gather to share food, share warmth, entertain and celebrate. Paradise lost ;-)
Tarbot has the idea. Nice work! Didn't know there were any masonry builders like that left here in North America.
Centre of the home - the radiant meeting place where family and friends gather to share food, share warmth, entertain and celebrate. Paradise lost ;-)
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