1. Welcome Hearth.com Guests and Visitors - Please enjoy our forums!
    Hearth.com GOLD Sponsors who help bring the site content to you:
    Hearthstone Soapstone and Cast-Iron stoves( Wood, Gas or Pellet Stoves and Inserts)
    Caluwe - Passion for Fire and Water ( Pellet and Wood Hydronic and Space Heating)

Cate Street Capital Plans $80 Million Pellet Facility in Easport, Maine

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by UMainah, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. UMainah

    UMainah Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    203
    Loc:
    Bangor, ME

    Helpful Sponsor Ads!





  2. UMainah

    UMainah Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    203
    Loc:
    Bangor, ME
    Oops typo in the title
  3. subsailor

    subsailor Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,439
    Loc:
    Winthrop, Maine
    I missed that article. Interesting.
  4. Woody1911a1

    Woody1911a1 Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2012
    Messages:
    435
    Loc:
    Marblehead , Ma
    that's great to hear for several reasons and not just a new pellet supplier . wish there were more jobs being created but whatever is in these old mill towns is welcome as is the reduction in taxes .

    looking forward to hearing more about it .
  5. Bioburner

    Bioburner Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2012
    Messages:
    2,958
    Loc:
    West central Mn
    Torrefied wood pellets that burn 30 percent hotter. Fuel cost for shipping getting higher everyday having to burn and haul a third less fuel, sign me on.
  6. subsailor

    subsailor Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,439
    Loc:
    Winthrop, Maine
    I'm not sure they are pellets that can be fed to your stove. The price per ton may not be comparable to pellets either.
  7. Bioburner

    Bioburner Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2012
    Messages:
    2,958
    Loc:
    West central Mn
    The smarter stoves should be able to compensate. The older stoves that have fixed feeds and no esp will probably be toast. I know of someone testing harmans using a blend of coal.
  8. subsailor

    subsailor Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,439
    Loc:
    Winthrop, Maine
    My point is that size wise they might not feed in a pellet stove. At least my impression from what I have read about that plant is they aren't pellets, but I may be wrong.
  9. Bioburner

    Bioburner Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2012
    Messages:
    2,958
    Loc:
    West central Mn
    Something to google when the driveway is plugged up with snow by the county again. At least the temps got back to double digits.
  10. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    13,580
    Loc:
    Northwestern CT.
    Torrefied wood pellets are the new coal. Made for enery plants. Pretty sure they are classified as an industrial pellet and most likely very long in size too.

    They are black and leave everything they touch black like charcoal. I really doubt you'd want to put them in your stoves.
  11. subsailor

    subsailor Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,439
    Loc:
    Winthrop, Maine
    That was my understanding of that process as well.
  12. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    13,580
    Loc:
    Northwestern CT.
    I'd still like to try some. Just to see how a really high BTU pellet would do in my stove.
  13. Bkins

    Bkins Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2009
    Messages:
    397
    Loc:
    Jersey Shore
    Probably set off a snap disc or 2.
  14. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    13,580
    Loc:
    Northwestern CT.
    The Omega/Maxx heat exchanger is massive. Plus the extra umph with the upgraded convection blower I should be able to run them. Haven't found a pellet yet that would trip my high limit.
  15. CT Pellet

    CT Pellet Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2012
    Messages:
    677
    Loc:
    Torrington, CT
    Ahhhh, do not be so sure of this. For those people who look to tomorrow , but no firther, then this story is short of being news-worthy, because , yes, the immediate product will be headed to Europe and possibly some to South America. But for those North American pellet burners with vision, this is something to rejoice in! You see, right now, in North Anerica, the mainstream of wood pellet sales are done in packaged bags which get fed into space heating stoves for residential use. But the real vision and benefit of wood pellets is to have a staple of central heating residential pellet boilers as well as industrial and utility applications as well. Right now, the cost of converting a home to a wood pellet central heater is cost prohibitive. That is because the upfront cost versus the savings is not significant enough to justify the expendature for most North American homes. But, if (and when) oil prices not only go up, but stay up, there will be a much different outlook on what the cost savings is. Right now, the biggest hurdle to overcome once you get past the up front cost, is having a stable and reliable supply of wood pellet fuel, which is geographically close enough to ensure cost effective bulk delivery. Currently there are only a handful of mills that offer this service and unfortunately, their quality may not be up to par for many end users. But having a mill in Maine, with this volume of production, will help ensure that when the central units start getting installed, and the utility companies begin to convert, that the production, supply and infrastructure are already in place. The only difference being that these pellets will then get loaded onto dry tankers for domestic use and not into containers for our dear friends across the pond.
    80 Million Dollars?.....Daaaammmnnnn!
  16. Shaw520

    Shaw520 Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    462
    Loc:
    Modena
    Hell,... somersets do that in my pos!!! (sorry mike)
  17. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    12,060
    Loc:
    Standish, ME
    The siting is specifically for export CT Pellet, as for infrastructure not so sure that RT190 could handle a lot of two way loaded truck traffic The rail line was pulled long ago. Eastport is at the end of a 7+ mile long man made peninsular on what was known as Moose Island.

    But as for the plant going into Eastport it is fine by me, Washington County can use all of the jobs it can get that aren't seasonal or service based.
  18. Lousyweather

    Lousyweather Guest

    is this near the Zumba class place?
  19. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    12,060
    Loc:
    Standish, ME
    Nope, several hundred miles from it in fact.
  20. Lousyweather

    Lousyweather Guest

    dang.....no one stop shopping, I guess!
  21. hossthehermit

    hossthehermit Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    May 17, 2008
    Messages:
    2,137
    Loc:
    Maine, ayuh, by gorry
    Smokey, you're forgetting Cianbro's new East - West highway
  22. Lake Girl

    Lake Girl Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Messages:
    1,507
    Loc:
    NW Ontario
    Resolute Forest Products (used to be Abitibi) closed our Kraft mill and one paper machine in Fort Frances, ON (near International Falls, MN) at the cost of 240+ jobs. The only positive was that one paper machine was still running. Felt a little relieved when I heard they were going to start making pellets ... unfortunately at the Thunder Bay mill. Still a local source would be welcome. Bad news is that they are specifically making industrial pellets to fire the electric generating station in Atikokan to replace the coal previously used (supposed to be the largest bio-gen in North America). The Atikokan mill will send it's remaining pellets to Europe.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/story/2012/11/23/tby-pellet-plants-opg-contracts.html

    Hey - those are our trees:confused: I like the jobs in Northern Ontario but I wouldn't mind some pellets too!
  23. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    12,060
    Loc:
    Standish, ME
    Ain't going to make any difference.
  24. save$

    save$ Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,916
    Loc:
    Chelsea Maine
    Yes, but can't you see someone making a home furnace unit that is appropriate for those pellets? More heat from a smaller bulk sure has some advantages. Where there is the potential for innovation, there will be those willing to jump in on the ground floor. Burning wood pellets is said to be carbon neutral, are these?
  25. CT Pellet

    CT Pellet Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2012
    Messages:
    677
    Loc:
    Torrington, CT
    All it takes is one senator in the company's back pocket to allocate the pork to built the infrastructure to make it accessable. I could be wrong, and I am OK admitting it when I am, but with our country's current administration, there is no way in hell that something as petty as other people's money would get in the way of spending!

Share This Page