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  1. jeff_t Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 14, 2008
    2,681 posts
    SE MI
    We bought a vacation place a few weeks ago, and I have a stove to install. Some brief searching hasn't shown me much for what to use to penetrate a metal roof. I found a silicone boot from Selkirk, but I'm not sure if that's what I need. We're taking a U-Haul full of crap in a couple of weeks, and I may be able to get the stove in, if I can gather what I need in time.

    It isn't corrugated, it looks like this. I think. I have only seen it once when it wasn't snow covered.

    metal-roof.jpg
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  2. topoftheriver Member

    joined: Jan 26, 2013
    169 posts
    Northeast
    If you're not sure, it would be wise to hire a professional so you don't damage the roofing. It is tricky to get the hole in the right spot.
  3. jeff_t Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 14, 2008
    2,681 posts
    SE MI
    I have done two installs through shingled roofs, so I'm pretty familiar with the process. I'm just not sure how to seal up the metal roofing.
  4. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
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  5. jeff_t Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 14, 2008
    2,681 posts
    SE MI
  6. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Good idea, this is not a job you want to rush. Most importantly, remember that water wants to run downhill. Don't impede it by creating artificial dams of silicone where it isn't needed.
  7. jeff_t Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 14, 2008
    2,681 posts
    SE MI
    Good point. There's not much pitch to begin with.

    The previous owners left us with 68% in the 500 gal pig ;). No hurry, I guess. Probably should buy some wood, though.
  8. Leroy_B Member

    joined: Dec 23, 2010
    56 posts
    Southern N.H.
    I'm going to follow this thread closely. I also wondered about a chimney flashing for a metal roof and how the install is done without any water damming up.
  9. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    1,927 posts
    southern Indiana
    I know some people use the silicone flashings with success, but I often find them leaking. In addition to the risk of leaking, they offer NO support for the chimney like a metal flashing offers.
    Anytime we do a metal roof install we use this one from ICC. It offers a permanent seal, it installs similar to a shingle type flashing, by tucking under the metal on the top side.

    Here is the flashing to use: http://www.icc-rsf.com/main.php?t=chem_produits&i=95&l=en
  10. Treacherous Minister of Fire

    joined: May 13, 2010
    745 posts
    WA state
    I have this one. No complaints here.

  11. jeff_t Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 14, 2008
    2,681 posts
    SE MI
    Maybe we should think about tearing the brick chimney down and go thru the wall. There is a ceiling support in place from a previous metal chimney, but they covered the hole when they put the new roof on. The exit point has to be almost at the peak. I'll have get in the attic and take a look.

    The hearth that is there has a TV on it now :rolleyes:

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  12. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    1,927 posts
    southern Indiana
    Can you re-line the chimney thats in place?
  13. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Good advice. Do you have any roof shots of an install?
  14. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    1,927 posts
    southern Indiana
    No, I usually take pics of the stove, but never thought to take a pic of the chimney.
    I do a few a month through metal, I'll get a pic next time.
  15. Bret Chase Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 15, 2013
    410 posts
    Maine
    flashing a metal chimney through a metal roof (screwdown or standing seam) isn't that big of a deal... if the hole stays in the flat and doesn't go through a rib. If it's a standing seam roof is is generally better to use the silicone boot and figure out a different way to secure the top of the chimney, as a SSR is only restrained at the bottom, and grows toward the peak as it heats up. With a screwdown it is also generally easier to use the silicone boot... though I have done a couple with a shingle type boot, but it requires cutting the panel....

    if your hole transitions a seam in a SSR..... it becomes an ugly, ugly nightmare... the worst one I had to do involved 2 12" metalbestos chimneys that were less than 2' apart.... it took me almost 2 days to get it tight...
  16. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,694 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    When I went through my corrugated metal roof, I bought a stove pipe laser level that fits inside the top of the stove pipe or your wood stove and projects a laser dot right at the center point on the roof or what ever you are going through.. Was dead nuts on..scribed a circle after marking the dot and it was dead on plumb. I wound up using the silicone boot flashing kit..So far no leaks...
  17. eclecticcottage Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 7, 2011
    1,204 posts
    WNY
    Just watching...we are thinking of doing a standing seam roof eventually, and we'll need to deal with this then.
  18. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Finally found a shot of the ICC flashing. I knew I had it sitting somewhere in my desktop junk.This is at the ridge, but the bottom detail is good. The storm collar has not been installed yet. Note that the sealant is only under the side flanges. The bottom is left unsealed for drainage.

    ICC_metal_roof_flashing.jpg
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  19. chimneylinerjames Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 26, 2012
    267 posts
    I would see what it would take to line the brick chimney. If its not in use, I would try to use the chimney that's already there. Just install a liner with insulation and your set.
  20. Bret Chase Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 15, 2013
    410 posts
    Maine
    the bottom detail isn't great.... is that a foam closure on the bottom, or was the metal cut to fit?
  21. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    I think he wants to get the stove more centrally located with a taller, straight up flue. The brick chimney is pretty short. Add a couple 90º turns in the smoke path and it is going to draw poorly.
  22. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    1,927 posts
    southern Indiana
    It's cut to fit. I seal the bottom edge though. The customer can see daylight and they don't like it.
    And I don't think there would really be any drainage allowed due to the size of the hole only inches away from the tail of the flashing. On a shingles roof it makes good sense, but here, I would rather seal it.
  23. Bret Chase Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 15, 2013
    410 posts
    Maine

    I seal it when I install them in a metal roof... I don't care what the customer "wants"... They never seem to like the "I told you so..." I don't want the callback for the chimney leaking due to wind driven rain, or the ice damn that *always* happens just down hill of the chimney...
  24. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,694 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    That's great if you can tuck the top under the ridge cap,, but that not always the case.
  25. Lumber-Jack Minister of Fire

    My roof install was very much like this except the chimney came out a little lower down from the ridge cap. All you have to do is cut another piece of the same type of metal roofing and install it so the lower part over-laps the chimney flashing and the top goes under the ridge. Done!
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