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Dealers Explanation of Pellet Quality

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by mrbean1025, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. nailed_nailer

    nailed_nailer Minister of Fire

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    I bought a ton of MWP at TS a few weeks ago for $209.

    Have to say I'm happy with them.
    Not the best but as CT said not the bottom either.

    My M55 eats them like popcorn and farts dry heat. :)

    Gonna pick up another ton next month to keep me till fall.

    BTW Manager at my nearest TS said TS is gonna get their own brand (re-bag) next year.
    No info on what will be in the bags.

    ---Nailer---
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  2. IHATEPROPANE

    IHATEPROPANE Minister of Fire

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    I don't entirely disagree with this dealer....for the majority of pellets I have tested the heat output was pretty much the same so long as they fed at the same rate. The are a few exceptions on both ends but not many IMHO.
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  3. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    Little birdy says its either going to be NEWP or Energex doing the filling.
  4. PoolGuyinCT

    PoolGuyinCT Feeling the Heat

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    I swung by Farmington tsc yesterday about 50 skids of instant heat...

    I'm always doing a youEEEEEE, at tsc just hoping to snap up some hardwood heats
  5. Augmister

    Augmister Minister of Fire

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    Guess you can make the analogy of a baseball team. The uniform (bag) doesn't change but the players (pellets) sure do! Great thread and thanks, CT Pellet for your candor!
  6. PoolGuyinCT

    PoolGuyinCT Feeling the Heat

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    Bottom line ya gotta pay to play
  7. Brokenwing

    Brokenwing Feeling the Heat

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    All this fuss about pellets. All pellets are the same, the man at lowes told me so, Lmao. ;)
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  8. Bigjim13

    Bigjim13 Feeling the Heat

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    This has been my experience with my Harman. I have burned all types of pellets ranging from $200/ton on up. The only real difference I saw was the amount of ash and how often I cleaned.

    This year j bought 4 tons of fireside ultras, a shoulder pellet from what reviews I read in here. This last Sunday it was -8 when I got up and my house was between 68-72.

    This has just been my experience though!
  9. Bigjim13

    Bigjim13 Feeling the Heat

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    Same here
  10. doghouse

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    Is that New England or North East?
  11. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    New England Wood Pellets.
  12. skibumm100

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    They sell Harman, Enviro, Lennox and maybe others. Those are the ones I noticed.
  13. mepellet

    mepellet Minister of Fire

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    Hmmmm ;)
  14. mrbean1025

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    When I originally went into Stove Keepers, which prompted this thread, I was only trying to do what everyone else wants to do. I wanted to find the pellet with the most heat output and least amount of ash which I thought would be Cubex (Northern). That was until the salesman (not the owner) gave his explanation... I think I am just going to go back to buying the cheaper pellets at Lowes if the EXPERTS are the ones saying that there is only a 600 btu difference.
  15. skibumm100

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    I'm trying to do the same thing as you. I tried the Northern pellet and they worked well for me in my stove. Good heat (as good as any I have tried so far) and pretty low ash. Good luck in your search.
  16. krooser

    krooser Minister of Fire

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    A pine or doug fir pellet will have higher btu's from the "pitch" that naturally occurs in the wood... and a good doug fir pellet will have substantially less ash... some time 50% less...
  17. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    600 BTU's per pound. So a bag will have 24,000 more. and a ton would have 1,200,000 more.
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  18. Bigjim13

    Bigjim13 Feeling the Heat

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    I have a Harman p61a.

    I have burned: Premiers (from TSC 4 yrs ago), MWP, Instant Heat, North Americans, Vermont's, Fireside Ultras, and Northerns over the last 4 years.

    The only difference I noticed was ash. I couldn't see that one was noticeably hotter than another. One brand did burn noticeably faster on the same settings (not sure I should mention the name).

    Other than that all those brands have kept house warm, even when it's below 20* and even below 10*.
  19. Bigjim13

    Bigjim13 Feeling the Heat

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    I have also burned NEWP from the NY plant.
  20. Thaddius Wenderoth

    Thaddius Wenderoth Feeling the Heat

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    I just finished the "Future Fuel" that came with the stove in my guest home. I am now burning the Lignetics in it. COMPLETELY different. The futur fuel had so many fines and barely kept the guest house warm on the highest setting. The Lignetics will run you out on Med. Low. I know some of it could be the handleing and storage of the pellets I got with the stove, but to me there was not only a visible difference in color and look but also a very real difference in heat output and ash in the stove. Those Future Fuels were clogging up the stove every bag. I will stick with my Ligentics. I am very happy with them for $188/ton.
  21. smwilliamson

    smwilliamson Minister of Fire

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    Did the salesman know that Northerns and Cubex are the same pellet?
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  22. skibumm100

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    Not sure who you're refering to. The Stovekeepers guy did. In fact he called the Northern's "Cubex" pellets.
  23. smwilliamson

    smwilliamson Minister of Fire

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    Good. I get a kick out of my "peers" in the industry when they do this stuff day in and day out and still don't know stuff like Cubex and Northerns or Enviro and Vista Flame being the of one and the same respectively.

    Cubex are great pellets cause they are made 100% from flooring waste. For those of you who don't know, flooring lumber need to be very very very dry before they are milled if you want straight beautiful flooring boards....Very dry wood scrap = very hot pellets.

    Which goes back to what I always say, the best pellet makers have a proprietory interest in making something else out of wood and therefore own the feedstock and the QC to make quality pellets with consistency.
  24. hooter04

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    The less the moisture content, the hotter the burn.Isn't that the old saying??
  25. mrbean1025

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    He did know, it also says it right on the bag.

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