Well I went ahead and ordered one of the grill thermos I was curious about, it was only 5.99 It reads pretty much the same as the Rutland, and both of them are lower than the IR. Wish there was an easy way to verify the IR around those temps... Well for the old stove its close enough, and cheaper than the Rutland. I like the looks of it much better, the dial is so much easier to read. Just wish it was magnetic. But for the stove top of the old stove, it will work out fine and the accuracy isnt a big deal on that stove.