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educate me on homeowner tractor/loader/backhoe, please.

Post in 'The Gear' started by RAY_PA, May 24, 2012.

  1. RAY_PA

    RAY_PA Feeling the Heat

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    I saw that very same tractor, and the price made me pass by it, then I saw it on another classified also. I have found one, on CL, that I have verbally comitted to and will go look at it early next week. If its what the seller clamis it is, which I believe it is, I will be bringing it home.
    Thanks for everyones help.

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  2. MasterMech

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    No fair teasing us like that! But I understand withholding the details for now. Please remember rule #1 once you get it home. PICS OR IT DIDN"T HAPPEN! ==c
  3. nate379

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    I have been using one of these yesterday and man it's a nice machine. Perfect size, not too big, not too small and it flat out WORKS! I dug holes for 10 trees in about 15-20 mins and it's been a few years since I have run a backhoe so I'm a bit rusty.

    http://www.deere.com/wps/dcom/en_US...s/tractor_loader_backhoe/110_tlb/110_tlb.page

    43hp, 4x4, weighs about 7300lbs. 72" front bucket.

    Dunno on new price, I have seen them go used for $25-30k, BUT it makes a CUT feel like a kids toy. This thing was meant to play in the dirt and has the weight and build strength to do so.

    The only thing that I hated was the seat has to flip to go to the backhoe and it was a pain to get it to flip and lock in place. A swivel seat would be better IMO.
  4. MasterMech

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    30 hydraulic horsepower, 3 hydro pumps, the 110 better dig. ;) A lot of machine for it's size. I've used that backhoe to crane 1400lb pumpkins into a small pickup!

    Unfortunately Deere no longer builds the 110 and has left the market to Kubota for now. :confused: Liked the 110 better than the L39 or L48 but the M59 is just plain fearsome.

    http://www.kubota.com/product/M59/M59.aspx
  5. RAY_PA

    RAY_PA Feeling the Heat

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    Well, I finally found one that was just what I was looking for and in my price range. So I brought it home yesterday. I havent had much time for decent pics, but here is one after I got it loaded.
    Kubota L2550, 4X4, loader and backhoe. 360 hours!

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  6. flyingcow

    flyingcow Minister of Fire

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    Nice looking unit
  7. Jags

    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    Cool beans, Ray. That is a mighty fine looking tractor. Looks like it has its working boots on. 360 hrs is hardly broken in. Get out there and get that thing dirty.
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    Outstanding.

    Be careful with those ag tires on the lawn...
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    Sure looks like it's ready to go to work, Ray...have fun but be real careful. Rick
  10. Jags

    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    Does that unit have a forward/reverse shuttle or is it strictly gears?
  11. ISeeDeadBTUs

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    Once you go ORANGE, you'll never go back()
  12. nate379

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    I find the R4 tires to be the best compromise for lawn use and having some traction.

  13. greg13

    greg13 Feeling the Heat

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    The trailer looks a tad light to handle the machine, I also recommend backing machines on (heavy side uphill on the ramps) I have watched Skidsteers do a back roll when loading. Trust me I load machines all week long.
  14. MasterMech

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    It takes a heck of a lot more to backflip a CUT than a skidsteer. He's near that trailer's max capacity I'm sure (assuming 3500lb axles under it) but unless he moves that machine everyday with that trailer it should be fine.
  15. nate379

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    Looks like a 7k trailer, tractor is less than 6k I'd imagine. (figure the trailer sprung weight is ~1000lbs)

    Tractor data is saying 2250 to 3850 pounds but not sure what all that includes?

    How I load all depends on what it is and what trailer. I like to have the heavier section on the front of the trailer to give me tongue weight.
  16. MasterMech

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    Don't forget the weight of the trailer itself. Steel with a wood deck, prolly somewhere between 2200-2500. With a 4500lb load that puts him up to 6700-7000 total. ;)

    Hey Ray, did ya weigh it? lol :p
  17. nate379

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    That's why I said ~1000lbs of sprung weight though maybe I'm off a little bit. The axles, springs, tires, etc don't factor into that.
    My trailer is a heavy duty 18ft, it weighs at around 2500lbs. The ramps alone are almost 100lbs each. The frame is 7" 1/4" wall C Channel, 1/4" diamond plate fenders (so I can drive over them with my Jeep which is too wide to fit between)

    In any case, it's perfectly fine having that tractor on that trailer. I loaded 8 yards of dirt on my trailer a few weeks ago and it's fine. I was told after that it was 2000lbs a yard :eek:
  18. RAY_PA

    RAY_PA Feeling the Heat

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    It is a shuttle shift, forward and reverse. 4 speed on the column, plus H and L range.
    I was hoping for a tractor with turf tires, but I must say after a few hours playing on this one, I am very happy with the tires on it.
    I didnt weigh the tractor, but cant imagine its more than 4000 lbs. That trailer is 7000lb GVW. aluminum feather lite. I highly doubt I am over max weight. And I can assure you we have hauled MUCH heavier loads with that trailer. The truck and trailer didnt even know it had a load on.
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    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    Is it a real shuttle shift/reverser? Really nice for loader work. My BIL has a hydrostatic JD, and it drove me nuts for a while. I was so used to jamming my foot to the floor on a real loader. Hydro is the complete opposite, you need to lift your right foot when it starts to dig. I'll take a foot throttle and a clucth on a tractor any day.

    Yeah, Nate, a yard of dirt is usually around a ton. A 'yard' is often subjective, since it is kinda hard to actually measure. Depending on the material and moisture, a yard of good sand should weigh around 2500 lbs, give or take. A yard of good dry screened topsoil will be quite a bit less.
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    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    Shuttle shift is the cats meow for loader work. Your productivity will be almost double that of a gear shift.
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    RAY_PA Feeling the Heat

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    I think its a real shuttle shift?
    Push the clutch in....lever forward for 'forward' ...push cluch in yank lever back for 'backward'.
    Does have a NEUTRAL position inbetween F and R. and has a little saftey lock that you can lock it in N
  22. Jags

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    No - if you have to use the clutch to go from forward to reverse it is not a hydro shuttle. Yours is a gear shuttle, but still better than having to grab the stick shift and actually select "R".

    A true hydro shuttle requires the tractor to have a converter, much like an automatic transmission. Most fork lifts are now of that design because of the constant Forward/Reverse.

    Nothing wrong with a gear drive shuttle though. Still makes loader work easier.
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    Yup, when I was looking at tractors in the Seattle area about a third of the craigslisting were this kind of scam. I reported several of them
  24. MasterMech

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    Jags, check out the Deere 4410 with the ePowrReverser. It's a true shuttle shift with a wet clutch instead of the converter. All the fun and none of the heat! Not sure if the newer 3x20/4x20 machines with the ePowrReverser trans have the same design.
  25. ISeeDeadBTUs

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    I don't think the Hydro shuttle is available on the 'L' models. By the time you figure out what features you want in your next tractor, you'll be ready to sell this for nearly as much as you paid for it.

    FWIW . . . with a FEL, I don't think you need to back up the ramps. In fact, If the tires are not loaded, backing up the ramp with a FEL will requireengaging 4wd and lowering the bucket, which will be riding along the ground keeping you from flipping the other way;lol

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