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  1. Weird tolkienish figure Member

    joined: Jan 15, 2012
    171 posts
    Ma
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1751-1097.2012.01192.x/abstract
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  2. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,280 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Sounds like skin reacts to CFLs' as though they are "mini suns".
  3. backpack09 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 10, 2007
    550 posts
    Whitman, Mass
    Then wouldnt you get the same results working/living under regular fluorescent lights?
    firebroad likes this.
  4. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,280 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Dunno. I don't have any idea of what is different between the CFL style and the old fashion tube style.
  5. StihlHead Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 24, 2011
    1,062 posts
    PNW Cascades
    Good thing I have a large supply of old fashion light bulbs. I cannot read or see well with the new compact floro ones.
    Realstone likes this.
  6. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Hard to say how much an issue this is without being able to read the whole report. Is this more of a lab test or real world risk? For example, at what distance was the UV radiation measured and at what strength? How does this compare to UV exposure by sunlight? I won't be changing any bulbs, but will refrain from smearing my body with titanium dioxide while in the house.

    "The response of the cells to the CFLs was consistent with damage from UV radiation, which was further enhanced when low dosages of TiO2 nanoparticles (NPs), normally used for UV absorption, were added prior to exposure."
  7. Seasoned Oak Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 17, 2008
    2,025 posts
    Eastern Central PA
    I say we go right to LEDs. another plus is NO MERCURY
    guy01 and Adios Pantalones like this.
  8. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Straight to Venus?
  9. fossil Super Moderator

    joined: Sep 30, 2007
    9,147 posts
    Bend, Oregon
    Uranus.
  10. Seasoned Oak Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 17, 2008
    2,025 posts
    Eastern Central PA
    Thats right,send all the mercury to uranus
    Pallet Pete and Realstone like this.
  11. woodgeek Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 27, 2008
    1,419 posts
    SE PA
    Fry: Oh, man, this is great! Hey, as long as you don't make me smell Uranus.
    [He laughs.]
    Leela: I don't get it.
    Farnsworth: I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all..
    Fry: Oh. What's it called now?
    Farnsworth: Urectum.
    Hearth Mistress likes this.
  12. StihlHead Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 24, 2011
    1,062 posts
    PNW Cascades
    Well, yah know that Spock and Kirk and the gang on the star ship Enterprize are on a voyage to Uranus... ...to wipe out the Klingons.
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  13. ihookem Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 25, 2009
    503 posts
    Allenton, Wisconsin
    There are bulbs that look just like incadecants but are halogen. A 40 equal uses 28 watts . A hundred equal =72 watts. Nice light, should last a long time and no mercury. I dropped a cfl on the basement floor. Looked at it, shrugged my shoulders 5 times and said now what?? It's mercury.
  14. jebatty Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 1, 2008
    3,571 posts
    Northern MN
    This has been known for a long time, not a new or recent discovery. Walking outside into daylight causes skin damage. Breathing ever-polluted air causes lung damage. Bright light causes eye damage. Loud sounds cause hearing damage. And breathing mercury in air from coal fired electric plants which light incandescent bulbs causes neural damage. I'll continue to use CFL's, gradually replace with LED's solely because they are more efficient. Cheers.
    woodgeek likes this.
  15. Pallet Pete Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 27, 2011
    3,178 posts
    Ovid MI
    I don't understand why this is news !
  16. Ehouse Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jul 22, 2011
    473 posts
    Upstate NY

    Not walking outside, especially in winter, can cause vitamin D deficiency. One wonders if CFL's convey a benefit in this regard that outweighs other risks?

    Ehouse
  17. jharkin Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 21, 2009
    2,060 posts
    Holliston, MA USA
    Digging up an old one eh? We had a similar thread last week......
  18. DBoon Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 14, 2009
    618 posts
    Central NY
    I am always initially skeptical about these kinds of reports....this could just be a "marketing" effort on the part of those who don't like CFLs or LED bulb manufacturers.

    But, overall, I'm with jebatty. LEDs are getting better, and prices are coming down. The new Philips L-prize bulb is a great example of a more efficient technology with a more consistent light quality, though the price is too high for my taste right now. However, as my CFLs burn out, I can see starting to cycle in the L-price LED bulbs to replace them. Not because of alleged UV effects of CFL bulbs, but because of their higher efficiency, nearly perpetual light, and higher lumens on initial power up.
  19. Hearth Mistress Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 24, 2012
    579 posts
    Point Pleasant, PA (SE PA)
    I have enough worry getting sunburn from staring at my fire all day, now I have to worry about light bulbs? I'm gonna die something, eventually, so screw all of it. I'm off to burn something non organic in a teflon pan in my kitchen with no ventilation under CFL bulbs while smoking unfiltered Camels drinking something with artificial sweeteners (not really, I don't have any of this stuff anyway) ;)
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