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Enviro Windsor, does anyone have a PDF to the original brochure?

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by VCBurner, Sep 5, 2011.

  1. sfcomm

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    For what it's worth I am a nice guy and you explanation seemed reasonable. Wasn't offended at all by the thread itself, just offended just by the fact you didn't show. Then surprised to see I called and said the stove was sold! That having been said (more than enough times) the stove is still for sale if you really are still interested. The lay away terms and price we discussed are still valid. I am not around at all today (Fri) but will be around all weekend. Let me know if you'd like to come and when. I have a guy from Burlington, VT scheduled to come Tuesday to look at it, but he understands it could sell B4 then and that I'd let him know if it did.

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  2. sfcomm

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    Your absolutely right, this could have been just a mix up. The fact that he made contact shows that! I'll do my part to correct. Right again "Enviro" is a miserable user name, strictly done in haste and the "4 Duramaxs are another story! Wise person you are DexterDay
  3. VCBurner

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    This is the reason I love this site. Even when something becomes an issue we can talk it over and resolve things. Thank you Dexter for serving as a mediator of sorts. Enviro, thanks for reconsidering and for posting on this thread. If you had not, I would have never known the stove was still available. I understand why you wold have been disappointed by the no show, I assure you it was unintentional.

    Thank you all for the posts and input on the stove!
  4. DexterDay

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    Bravo......... Well played by both parties. It all comes out in the wash.

    VCburner, this is why I too love this Forum. Just by saying what you said and still offering the deal (both parties) says to me that you were honest about the call/text.

    Enviro, good call on "calling him out". Had you not done it. Neither party would have known the whole story. I am still going to be on the lookout for the "4 Duramax's" Story. Duramax, Torque, or Diesel seem a more fitting user name. Considering the Copious amounts of Torque that you have. (Or leave it, I like Enviro. Still would love to get my hands on a discontinued Omega)

    I apologize if either of you thought I was "digging" into your business.
    I hope that the reconciliation continues. Looking forward to a "New Install" Thread. From possibly both of you.

    Is the Englander installed yet Enviro??
  5. VCBurner

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    Again, I find myself happy about a new stove. This time it is a totally different beast! I must thank Enviro for joinning the club and posting on this thread! What a small world we live in especially once the web is introduced into the mix. This site has once again proven to come in handy in unconventional ways. The Wndsor is every bit as beautiful as I thought it might be. It'll be a nice introduction to pellets, I hope will go as well as my experience with wood. The wood burning fit my lifestyle to a T. Now a new journey begins, learning new things and ways to heat alternatively. I welcome this new world with open arms and an open mind. Things could only fall into place now as they always have in the past. Thank you Enviro for making this deal possible, I look forward to seeing you in three weeks. Can't wait to fire it up!!
  6. raybonz

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    LOL Chris that was the most convoluted Craigslist transaction I have seen! My CDW sale had a few quirks until one guy contacted me that said he had the exact same stove.. He came by looked it over and commented I can see you took really good care of this stove.. He was happy as all his family members knew how to run this stove so he wanted to replace his (had a warped inner top so the bypass wouldn't close anymore) .. He offered $350.00 and without hesitation I accepted the offer.. He tried to give me $100.00 for a deposit and I refused and said a handshake worked for me.. We worked out a time he could pick it up and he brought along a few goons to get it into his truck and paid $350.00 in cash.. I'll miss the old girl as she served me well for 20+ years but it was time to move on.. From what I have read in this post Chris Enviro sounds like a standup guy and with those spare parts included you got a good deal.. Best wishes and I look fwd. to hearing about this pellet burner..Dexter you done well here too so feel good about that.. I still wonder why you pellet guys need a chainsaw though lol.. Gotta be hard to cut those lil pellets without chopping off your fingers!! As for splitting them I won't even go there!! :)

    Ray
  7. VCBurner

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    LMAO!!! :lol: I'll keep my chainsaw, just in case and the giant wedge maul! As far as the stove, there's no doubt in my mind it's in good shape. Enviro took great care of it and even fired it up for me to show it worked. He game me tips and will remain a good source of information even after the sale is complete I'm sure! My DW went for $400, can you believe it? That was probably the deal of the century as far as wood stoves are concerned. New SS cat, spare used ceramic cat and a stove that looks like it came off the showroom floor. All dusted off and cleaned inside and out. I even gave it a coat of polish before it got picked up! At a shop, it would go for about 1800 with an SS cat and a blower.

    I'm certainly looking forward to picking up this beauty of a stove. Bringing it home will be a joy.
  8. DexterDay

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    Ray, It would be hard to cut up pellets with the Saw. Might have to find a smaller Bar and chain for my Top handle.. LOL

    But the Saws are for the Wood Cutting for the 30 in the basement. Even without a Woodstove, everyone should have a Good Saw.
    I love both the Wood stove and the Pellet stove equally. I try not to discriminate.

    Chris. It will take a little getting used to, but I'm sure you'll love the New Stove.

    Enviro, Your a Good Man doing what you did and still sticking with the original deal. Its Nice to still see people out there, that understand how the economy is. Good for you

    Glad it all worked out.
  9. raybonz

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    Yup Dexter I see you in the wood forums often..

    Ray
  10. sfcomm

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    So yes VCBurner came and purchased the Windsor yesterday. He got to see it fire and everything. After meeting Chris I immediately knew how this (missed appointment) really was a mixup. He's just an all around great guy. I'm looking forward to him coming to pick it up, so I have a chance to talk with him again! What a strange set of circumstances put this sale back together. Finding this thread and a pic of my stove sitting in my living room on a site (hearth.com) that I don't think I had ever visited B4. The thread with it's good/bad positive/negative comments about the stove, came complete with an intermediary (DexterDay) and everything :exclaim: So thanks for the assistance.
  11. VCBurner

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    That's the way things seem to go around here. Lots of different views and opinions, but most of the time things work out in the end. The most important thing is it brings us all together and knowledge is power. With the wealth of knowledge shared here we really do have an advantage over most other stove users/buyers who don't frequent the site.

    Thank you for the kind words Enviro, I look forward to our next meeting as well. Also, hope we keep in touch after the sale. We have this great avenue here, why not use it?

    Take care,

    Chris
  12. VCBurner

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    Ok, so the stove has come home. Thank you to Enviro for the kindness and understanding of my situation. Thanks to those who posted the opinions on this thread helping me to make a decision.
    I'm now on the installation stage which I want to complete by the end of the week if possible. My questions are, I have just enough clearance to the sides of the stove to combustibles. There are 8" on both sides but I'm not convinced it'll be enough. Maybe it's just the lack of experience with pellet stoves. Is it ok to put the stove 8" away from a couch? Another question is what to use for air intake pipe. The manual states 2" steel, aluminum or copper may be used. I couldn't find any 2" aluminum flex at a plumbing and heating supplyer. However I may be able to get some 2" electrical metal tubing, which may be the answer, any ideas?

    Oh yeah, here are some pics of it on a furniture dolly. I plan on running double wall from the back of the stove into a through the wall thimble and a 12" section outside with a termination cap. Another question is I have to go through a wall under the stairs first, before reaching the outside wall. The picture should explain things better. Can I cut a 6" circle out of the single sheetrock layer and put the double wall pipe through the center of it? The wall is simply a single layer of sheetrock that makes up a closet wall. I understand the section the pipe runs through has tyo be enclosed so the closet will have an additional wall put in as well.

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  13. VCBurner

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    Please help with these questions, I want to get it done before the weekend. Cold season is approaching soon, though we've been lucky around here so far.
  14. SmokeyTheBear

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    Automotive parts place for the OAK material, if the electrical conduit is actually the right size that is also fine.

    Are you planning on placing that stove where it is in that picture?

    A bit later I'll download the install manual for that unit and read through it. I'm sure that other folks will chime in but it might attract the attention of others who have already installed that stove if you change the title of this thread to reflect the fact you have installation questions.

    Please remember that the side clearance does not apply to the front of that stove.

    Edited to add, what is the distance from the outside of the house to the wall behind the stove and would you please provide a picture of the outside where the vent would come through. I haven't found any mention on the maximum permitted horizontal run in the manual.

    The 8" clearance is to any combustible so yes on that close to the couch. I'd be more concerned about folks on the couch getting closer than the 8" though.

    BTW I found an install manual that Google has made a quick view of.
  15. VCBurner

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    Thanks for the post Smokey!
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    I added some stuff to the prior post. You got to it before I managed to hit the send button.

    You'll likely have to come up with a pass through (thimble) for the inside wall as well I don't think that it would pass inspection if you had an open hole with a hot vent pipe through it. That horizontal also has to have a rise in it as well. There is a veiled warning in the installation manual that a horizontal install may not work under some conditions.
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    Hi Chris!
    That stove looks new! Very nice indeed! FYI 2" EMT is much closer to 2-1/2" than it is to 2" .. Unfortunately I am not qualified to speak on the flue pipe etc.. I suggest you try also posting in Hearth room as you may get help there too.. Running my T-5 right now and I love how it burns, really nice secondaries!! Good luck with your install I look forward to the pics! BTW the Woodstock Progress Hybrid was really awesome!! It was great to meet everyone..

    Ray

    Edit: I just reread Smokey's post and I think he is right.. I am wondering why you chose that location rather than along an outside wall.. That would seem to be a better location will make the flue pipe easy to install.. Personally I also would be afraid someone or something would touch that hot stove if the couch is that close.. You know how kids are, next thing you know they drop a pillow or a stuffed toy or worse themselves in that 8" space.. Just my 2 cents..
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    Thanks for posting again my friend!
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    I saw the statement Smokey, where they say some instalations may need a vertical run of 3-5' in order to help with natural draft of the stove to make it work. I may find myself getting a vertical run of double wall 3" to attach to the outside with a clean out T. I'll have to give it a shot with the horizontal run even if I have to give it a rise on its way out. I stopped by the local Enviro dealer today but he is closed on Mondays and Tuesdays, so it'll have to wait until Wednesday. He may have some input on the particulars of the Windsor also.
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    Scroll to bottom for EMT dimensions and yes 2" EMT is close to 2" I.D.

    http://home4c.com/conduit.htm

    Ray
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    How tall is the closet? Could you put the stove in the corner (under the picture in your 3rd pic) and run pipe up the wall and out across the ceiling of the closet? The corner might be a nice spot for the stove and it would get you some vertical rise.
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    You may have misunderstood my remark about the rise, it is a very small towards the vent rise that must be in every horizontal pellet vent run. I'll have to look it up it isn't much but under no circumstance should any pellet vent run be level or downhill.

    I think the issue the manual was making reference too was back pressure, it can cause two problems overheating the combustion blower and allowing smoke to flow backwards and out the air intake.
  24. VCBurner

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    Thanks for the link Ray, that just might work. I asked my father in law to get me a 6' section of pipe from the job site and have the guys bend a 90 on one end. This way, all I'll have to do is put it on the stove with a 2" connector and put a screen at the end with another connector attached to secure the screen in place. At least one problem solved, maybe. You just never know untill it's done, I'm not cutting any wholes in the wall yet! :lol: I'm doing the hearth pad first and then after seeing the stove and pad in place I'll decide what really will happen as far as the couch and cutting up the walls. Most likely a chair will replace the loveseat and the stove will have more room to breath and heat!
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    The recommended rise on a horizontal run is 1/4" per foot of pipe.

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