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Gonna try sweeping....update....not happy

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Beer Belly, Jan 5, 2012.

  1. Beer Belly

    Beer Belly Minister of Fire

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    I think I've got the Wife convinced to let me buy a Brush, and some extentions to sweep our chimney.....gotta admit, I told her "I've seen it down, heck I can do that !!", but I'm a little concerned that I might do something wrong and mess up. I'm particulary worried about the Flue when I run the Brush thru it....afriad I might seperate the sections (if there are any.....wasn't here to see the install into the Chimney)....or worse....lose the brush half way down.....I have nightmares of pulling up the rods with no Brush. So, just how easy is it ???....is it as simple as just running the brush up and down a few times ???....should I have a wieght with a rope tied to the bottom of the Brush in case I need to pull it from the bottom ???....I intend to do it from the top (even though I'm not thrilled with hieghts).....Thanks for any tips, and reassurance.

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  2. Pagey

    Pagey Minister of Fire

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    It's really quite easy. But let me offer these words of wisdom: test fit the brush before you commit! When I got my first poly brush to sweep my 6" inner diameter Class A, it fit so snugly that after going only about 1' inside the first section of Class A, it was nearly impossible to pull on the rod and reverse the brush! If I had gone any further, I would have been disassembling chimney sections. So insert the brush and then make sure you can reverse it. As long as you can do that with relative ease, you should be in good shape. A pair of tin snips fixed the problem quickly, and the brush fit properly after that. Good luck. You can do it.
  3. PLAYS WITH FIRE

    PLAYS WITH FIRE Minister of Fire

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    I tighten extensions and brush together with pliers! I had the same fear;-)
  4. lukem

    lukem Minister of Fire

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    If you get into trouble and can't pull the brush back up, keep pushing until it gets to the clean-out (assuming you have one?), remove the brush, and pull your rods back out the top.
  5. Backwoods Savage

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    Not sure what your chimney is like but most chimney's I've done have been easy. Some from bottom and some from top. I had only one that really gave me fits and I really wondered for a time if I could get that brush out! But I'll second the notion of making sure the connectors are good and tight. I've also seen folks tie a rope onto the bottom of the brush and know of one instance where that turned out to be an excellent idea! Most times though you'll be amazed at how fast it goes. I usually push all the way down and then back up. Then back down again, using a short scrubbing motion and then back up doing the same thing. Usually that is all that is needed except for the final clean up.
  6. Beer Belly

    Beer Belly Minister of Fire

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    Mine is a straight run down....maybe 15 feet or so.....sounds simple enough
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    pen There are some who call me...mod. Staff Member

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    If you are nervous, get the stuff, take the camera w/ you, do before and after shots of the whole setup and what it looks like, and we can help to make sure you didn't miss something.

    I think you'll do fine, but if you are unsure, share what you are seeing with the site.

    pen
  8. Creature

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    I'll be doing this for my first time in the next couple of weeks. When I had a professional (WETT Canada) sweep by in the summer, I let him know I wanted to watch and talk to him about it while he did the job. He agreed and didn't charge extra (I would have)! I think I'm good to go using his tips below. Top down for my configuration (easy access flat roof, no cleanout, 2 x 30deg stovepipe bends).

    He said to keep two things in mind when you are brushing (remove your baffle and probe thermo first), put pressure in a clockwise direction to be sure the rods don't get loose, and when you disconnect the rods hold the lower one tight and only rotate the rod you are removing. He pushed the brush straight through to the stove from the top and brushed as he went up, twice. Only a cup from last year's burning, but I only put a cord through.

    I'm at almost a cord for this year, and I want to see how I'm doing. I was up there for a visual (and to test-fit my new brush) about 3 weeks ago, and had less than 1/16in of sooty stuff (if that) with some flakes here and there at the top. My cap is getting pretty ugly last time I had it off, I'll have to brush that out too.

    I'll try to remember to document and post my results.
  9. Beer Belly

    Beer Belly Minister of Fire

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    I could always depend on you guys.......a lot of experience....and a lot of patience with us new guys...Thanks
  10. waltdog

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    Get up there! I recommend a Phillips #2 and a 1/4 inch nut driver as pocket tools. When I did mine for the first time after just a few months of burning the cap had accumulated quite a bit of stuff so I cleaned it up ground-side with a putty knife. Safety or sunglasses wouldn't hurt either :coolhmm:
  11. bogydave

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    Good to know what you need up there. An inspection tour helps.

    I take an extra nut & bolt for my cap clamp, I have dropped a few. Philips & flat screw driver & needle nose.
    Card board box to put & clean the cap in, saves creosote all over the roof.
    I have 2 rod section screwed to the brush to start, (anti-seize on the threads) then add sections as needed.
    Ladder up a few trips to the eve & lay everything on the roof then go up on the roof.

    BE safe
  12. Beer Belly

    Beer Belly Minister of Fire

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    Sounds like I'm gonna need to wear my toolbelt :) .....good to know, because as I originally said, Hieghts are not my thing....1 trip up is enough for me. I'm gonna try to get up there this weekend, temps are gonna be high 40's, low 50's. I did notice last week when I was installing the Cap for the Furnace Flue, that the Woodstove Cap seemed to have some Creosote build up on it....almost 2 years since it was cleaned from the top down, thats the main reason why I'm NOT cleaning from the bottom up.....you guys are building up my confidence with all the helpful tips...Thanks
  13. Pagey

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    Another thing I've found useful is to close the primary air control on the stove before I begin sweeping. If the wind is calm, this seems to help the soot particles from rising so quickly due to the draft and thus cuts down on the number I eat. Of course you could just wear a cheap dust mask, which I always forget.
  14. Lumber-Jack

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    Usually the hardest thing about top cleaning a chimney, for most people, is dealing with the heights. My chimney is tough to get at being in the middle of a steep metal roof, so I built and installed some metal brackets on my roof to hold a couple planks and a couple hooks for holding a ladder on the roof to get up to the planks. Now the job is a piece of cake.

    Here's a video of the proccess.
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    Pagey Minister of Fire

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    LOL, that time lapse makes it look like a squirrel on crack, Carbon! But actually, that's a pretty damned ingenious setup you have there. Well done, sir!
  16. pen

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    Time lapse :eek:hh:

    You ruined it for me :-/

    pen
  17. GAMMA RAY

    GAMMA RAY Minister of Fire

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    That vid is the best!
    My next accomplishment is to do the next cleaning myself. I am not a fan of heights either but I want to learn how to do it. We will see how that goes. :smirk: Maybes Mr Gamma will vid me doing it....maybe not a good thing, since I am prone to mishaps. :shut:
    Beerbelly...you can do it! We are all pulling for ya!
  18. homebrewz

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    On your setup, I don't know where the exit point is for the brush and soot, but if its inside, don't forget to hang a sheet or have some sort of plan for all of the fine particles.
    They will get everywhere.
  19. JotulOwner

    JotulOwner Feeling the Heat

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    How many Red Bulls does it take to get the job done that fast? :lol:
  20. KodiakII

    KodiakII Feeling the Heat

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    Borrowed the doin's and did mine today, great day for it high of 6 deg. C. First experience has led me on a quest for a sooteater...but where in Canada do I find one without getting a blank stare and a "a what?" reply? Hope your venture went as well as mine.
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    pen There are some who call me...mod. Staff Member

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    Not sure if this is the best price around, but it's one option http://www.amazon.com/SootEater-Rot...JQOM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325893921&sr=8-2

    pen
  22. Beer Belly

    Beer Belly Minister of Fire

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    Got it done......Wife let me buy the brush....when I asked about Rods, the salesman said "you don't need those expensive Rods....use a rope"....I wanted to shoot him, he showed my Wife a cheaper, and less efficient way of cleaning (IMO), I'd rather have the rods so I can scrub the liner rather than just pass the brush thru, but 3 rods at $35 a piece was more than a 20 foot section of rope. We've been burning questionable wood (wet/somewhat green) for about 12 weeks, got 1/2 gallon of Black, fine soot....Wife sez it looks like dirt....no crystals or chunks.....what do ya think....not good, not bad ???....oh yeah....I passed the rope down, tied and pulled the brush up...2X
  23. PapaDave

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    Somebody is ripping somebody else off, if those rods are 35 bucks a piece. I can find 'em around here for $5-7 all day.
  24. Regency139

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    I bought mine from Lowes a few years ago and if memory serves me correctly they were roughly ten bucks per rod.
  25. Beer Belly

    Beer Belly Minister of Fire

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    The salesman said I could get the rods from HD or Loews, but they are too flexible, and would need adapters to fit the brush.....when I checked HD and Loews, I couldn't find any rods....but they are starting to showcase a lot ob BBQ Grilles and Patio Furniture....talk about rushing the season :roll:

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