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  1. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    What is the difference between Englander And Summers Heat Brand the stoves look the same?
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  2. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,524 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
  3. ddddddden Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 20, 2009
    1,170 posts
    Central Va
    Summers Heat is the badge for Englanders sold through Lowe's.
    There's also a Timber Ridge variant.
  4. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    Thank you i was browsing Lowe's website and got to wondering that.
  5. northernontario Member

    joined: Sep 28, 2010
    119 posts
    Ontario
    I will never understand this... why bother private-labelling a product that people want to know has history? I might buy an Englander stove because I can search online and find reviews, but I wouldn't want to buy a Summers Heat stove. Unless you're having stoves made with different materials, which would dictate the different price-point... you're not developing the brand if only one store is able to carry them.

    Obviously part of the reason is to trick consumers... can't cross-reference stoves at different stores, so you can't go in and price-match an item. If I've got a gift card for Lowes, and Canadian Tire has their stove on at a better price, Lowes doesn't have to price-match because the stoves are different brand names.
  6. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    This thread can be closed i found my answer


    thank you.
  7. Kaptain New Member

    joined: Feb 2, 2011
    72 posts
    Central PA
    I did not realize they were both technically englander stoves when I bought my NC 30. I normally shop at lowes but I wanted an 'Englander', so I went to Home Depot.

    I just checked and lowes wants 350 bucks more for the 'Summers Heat' NC 30 ($1149). I paid $899 with free shipping - so it's their loss for doing this.
  8. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    they are $889 at my local Lowe's i think.
  9. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    22,165 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Little bit of trivia. Summers was the middle name of Bob England the co-founder of ESW. I also believe it was him and Ron's mother's maiden name. Since Englander stoves used to be sold by stove dealers I am sure that the two other labels were used when they started selling through big box stores to placate the dealers.
  10. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    That one is a new one on me did not know that. I may sound crazy but i still find my self wanting a 30 more then the mag.

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