Been looking at craigslist for a while, also looking at new. Was hoping that the Englander's would go on sale at home Depot but no luck. Found a pacific energy super 27, manufactured 1999 with the stainless chimney for $400. Guy said they just moved into the house, stove was there but he's not interested in burning. (didn't know that was possible) Really wasn't looking for anything that high end, but it seems like decent epa stoves are few and far between on the used market. I'm going to take it to the local pacific energy dealer and have them check it over, just make sure it's safe. Any idea as to what they might charge for something like that? Now I gotta get cutting! I fell into a great source. Free and unlimited. Pics of the stove and wood coming soon.