How can this be??

[James02]

Ok, so I was paroosing the Avalon website (bored at work, not shopping)...The Olympic has a 3.1 cf box and the Arbor has a 2.3 cf box...Yet they both max at 12 hr burn times....Logical thinking is the bigger box gets the longer burns...What's up with that??

 

[BrowningBAR]

Marketing does not equal a scientific study.

 

[joescho]

Marketing does not equal a scientific study.

X2

 

[certified106]

I would bet money the larger stove has a "higher" low btu output.

 

[James02]

Marketing does not equal a scientific study.

Oh, that old gag...

 

[Highbeam]

It's harder to make a bigger firebox burn clean so I'd bet that the large stove is fed more air on low, as certified suggests.

You can't really slow down the offgassing of a pile of wood. EPA non-cats only burn so long nomatter how big they are.

 

[BrowningBAR]

It's harder to make a bigger firebox burn clean so I'd bet that the large stove is fed more air on low, as certified suggests.

You can't really slow down the offgassing of a pile of wood. EPA non-cats only burn so long nomatter how big they are.

Usually the box that holds more fuel will burn longer.

 

[Highbeam]

Usually the box that holds more fuel will burn longer.

But not a direct relationship. a 2 CF firebox can burn 10 hours but a 3cf firebox can not burn for 15, not a 4 CF for 20. The point of this thread is that this relationship isn't linear as one would expect.

 

[BrowningBAR]

But not a direct relationship. a 2 CF firebox can burn 10 hours but a 3cf firebox can not burn for 15, not a 4 CF for 20. The point of this thread is that this relationship isn't linear as one would expect.

The point of this thread is questioning how a two different size stoves, using the same technology, from the same manufacturer have the same burn times. The answer is; they would not. The stove with the larger firebox will have the longer burn time.

 

[Todd]

Maybe the Olympic isn't actually 3.1? Also both stoves use different secondary burn systems, the Arbor is a down draft while the Olympic is a tube burner. Maybe the down draft has a slower burn?

 

[Sprinter]

Maybe the Olympic isn't actually 3.1? Also both stoves use different secondary burn systems, the Arbor is a down draft while the Olympic is a tube burner. Maybe the down draft has a slower burn?

What's a "down draft stove"?

The point of this thread is questioning how a two different size stoves, using the same technology, from the same manufacturer have the same burn times. The answer is; they would not. The stove with the larger firebox will have the longer burn time.

Do some stoves allow a little more air in when turned all the way down? I imagine some stoves control air differently than others.

 

[rdust]

The point of this thread is questioning how a two different size stoves, using the same technology, from the same manufacturer have the same burn times.

No different than the BK Sirocco and Princess, Princess is a cubic foot bigger and they have the same published burn times. I'd guess the heat output on low is not apples to apples.

 

[begreen]

It's not uncommon. For example, the mid-sized 2 cu ft PE stoves get equal if not somewhat longer burn times than their 3 cu ft stoves. Bigger stoves appear to have more open secondary

I don't know if the marketing is correct in this case, but the Avalon Olympic and the Arbor are two different secondary combustion designs. That may make the difference. Another example I can think of is that a 2 cu ft cat stove run on low heat may get a lot longer burn time than a 3 cu ft non-cat.

 

[Ashful]

Bigger stoves appear to have more open secondary.

Perhaps for the reason Highbeam suggested?

You can't really slow down the offgassing of a pile of wood. EPA non-cats only burn so long nomatter how big they are.

 

[begreen]

Definitely. Dump a full load of wood on a too hot coal bed and you are suddenly going to have a large outgassing event.