Figured I would post here, aside from paper what do you guys use for firestarting? Here is what I use; Costs about $75 to buy and gets a fire going in my boiler quickly, eats the little 1LB cylinders though, I go through one every couple of weeks. A few years ago on ebay I bought a little brass adapter that allows me to fill the 1lb tanks with a 20lb tank. Takes about a minute per cylinder to fill. There is that whole transportation if refilled warning on the side of the cylinders, however most times they never leave my basement =) Just though I would share, they are a very cool looking torch to top it all off. You can solder up to 3" copper as well, I have also silver soldered 2" copper with it running MAPP gas, although oxy/acetylene is much better suited to the task Crosstech is the brand name, they have single, double and triple tip torches and are the hottest naturally aspirated torch you can buy. I use my single and double tip all the time while working.