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  1. frankie New Member

    joined: Jun 12, 2012
    36 posts
    Stroudsburg Pa.
    This is my first season with a pellet stove. I have a thermometer stuck to the side on my new p61a and am concerned about overfiring it. I have been running it where the temp of the steel gets to 500 degrees. Stove is set at feed rate 3 and stove heat set at 2.5. How hot can the steel itself get before it warps? Don't want to wreck a new stove. Trying to learn all that I can. Thanks.
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  2. CT Pellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 1, 2012
    645 posts
    Torrington, CT
    Good Gawd....500 degrees??? Doesn't seem possible. The stove is loaded with sensors, including a high limit sensor:
    "The P61A is an intelligent, biomass-burning machine. It is loaded with smart-sensing technologies to deliver powerful heat, with impressive, money-saving efficiency"
    If it gets too hot, she will shut right down, but 500degrees seem awfully hot!
  3. frankie New Member

    joined: Jun 12, 2012
    36 posts
    Stroudsburg Pa.
    Yes 500. That is what the Rutland burn indicator thermometer stuck on the side is reading.
  4. CT Pellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 1, 2012
    645 posts
    Torrington, CT
    I am perplexed. You would be melting all of the internal electrical components. Something's not right.
  5. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,438 posts
    Standish, ME
    Is your distribution fan pushing any air through that stove?
  6. IHATEPROPANE Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 24, 2011
    800 posts
    Southern,MA
    500 seems very high...although different stove I have one of those gauges on the side of my stove tight next to the glass. Stays just above two hundred....I cannot imagine it getting anywhere near that hot. Sounds dangerous.....if anything touches that a fire could start quite easily.
  7. frankie New Member

    joined: Jun 12, 2012
    36 posts
    Stroudsburg Pa.
    Turned it down to 2. Went down to around 450. sro.jpg
  8. DBCOOPER Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 23, 2010
    251 posts
    Stowe, Pa
    I would think that the stove high limit would shut it down. I would get an IR thermometer and verify the actual temperature.
  9. IHATEPROPANE Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 24, 2011
    800 posts
    Southern,MA
    Do you have an infrared gun to check the temp? Maybe the indicator is not calibrated correctly?
  10. will711 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 26, 2011
    939 posts
    Pocono mts.
    That thermometer may not be accurate. Hey did you get the Accentra burn pot all squared away??
  11. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    no way can that be 500 degrees
  12. frankie New Member

    joined: Jun 12, 2012
    36 posts
    Stroudsburg Pa.
    I put a new flame guide on the accentra and that cut down on some of the problem.
  13. CladMaster New Member

    joined: Nov 20, 2012
    71 posts
    Maine
    I've had my 25 PDVC up to 450F on setting 6 for heat and the room blower at 7.
  14. will711 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 26, 2011
    939 posts
    Pocono mts.
    That's good , sounds like it's still not 100% ??
  15. IHATEPROPANE Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 24, 2011
    800 posts
    Southern,MA
    Haha....nice avatar. :)
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  16. Bioburner Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 4, 2012
    840 posts
    West central Mn
    The stoves controls are separate and housed with the feed bin on the P series so would have a much cooler environment. Steel would have to be hotter than 500 for damage. That is hot for a pellet stove. Visable red color in the dark is about 750.Just shot some temps of my pc45 on idle and the hottest area on the stove was on the lower ash pan hold at close to 195. Newegg sale on IR guns for $18. Fun tool
  17. DexterDay Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 11, 2010
    9,045 posts
    NE Ohio
    Thats on the side of the firebox wall. There is fire behind it.

    On Low, I get over 300° when stuck to my firebox wall

    Some stoves have side shields. Some dont. His doesn't. So that should be normal. That's a very large stove and the stove will kill itself before overfire.
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  18. Harvey Schneider Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 9, 2012
    467 posts
    Southbury, CT
    I see temperatures around 400 on my pdvc running heat=4 convection=9 measured with an IR thermometer. That is in a concrete basement with an air temperature of about 65. A firebox wall temperature of 500 doesn't seem unreasonable to me. I don't find a need to run my stove that hot. The heat setting of 5 warms the shop (1100 sq ft) surprisingly fast.
  19. Countryboymo Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 24, 2010
    357 posts
    W Central MO
    I would put something on the bottom of a pan of water and boil that thermometer and see the temp. I have one and it is only good to get a basic baseline reading from one pellet to another. IR temp guns are cheap and some are not accurate on gloss surfaces so keep that in mind.
  20. Harvey Schneider Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 9, 2012
    467 posts
    Southbury, CT
    My IR thermometer checks out against other thermometers (checked against my oven and other references) it may be off, but not by much. Stove paint is flat black, which should be ideal for a cheap IR thermometer.
  21. will711 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 26, 2011
    939 posts
    Pocono mts.
    Thanks :cool:
  22. TLHinCanada Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 7, 2011
    250 posts
    Canada
    I would have to look it up, but, I think steel under load will start deform at 600 F. Cast iron will take more, mild steel less.
  23. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,490 posts
    Central ME
    The Harman p series throw a lot of radiant heat. I measured my stove surface temps on the side of the firebox and came up with these different readings with an ir thermometer.
    Stove temp setting/surface temp
    1/327
    2/404
    3/493
    4/556
    5/595
  24. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    Wow that sounds very dangerous
  25. frankie New Member

    joined: Jun 12, 2012
    36 posts
    Stroudsburg Pa.
    Yes, the p series certainly throws a lot of radiant heat. I see we have the same stove and are getting temps that are close. What number do you normally run that p61stove on?

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