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  1. mass_burner

    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    I'm about to install an unused, unpainted vintage 602 and have some questions:

    1. I have 3 baffle plates, is that all there are inside?
    2. Does anyone know how the baffle plates are arranged inside?
    3. Can I use unpainted? I do like its current cast iron look.
    4. Should I line the bottom with fire brick, sand, or something else?
    5. Does the round warming plate just sit on top? Does it need to be "cemented" in?

    Thanks.

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  2. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    There are 2 side burn plates and the baffle sits snugly on top of them. Here is a diagram of the stove in this thread.
    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/...late-and-air-baffle-arrangement-needed.52168/
    No problem with the stove paint. It is actually painted, just with a black paint. If you want to sharpen it up, clean it well, wipe with alcohol and paint with Stove Bright black paint. Put about 1/2" clean sand in the bottom. The warming plate is fine.
  3. mass_burner

    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    are you sure? i mean were they all painted at the factory in Norway? Mine look to be just cast iron, like a skillet.
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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Yes I think so. If it was raw cast iron I would expect it to be very prone to rusting. At this point your paint is totally baked in.
  5. mass_burner

    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    This stove has never been used. Not a trace of soot anywhere, gasket rope white and new. The seller said the original buyer bought it "in the 70's" and never installed it due to poor health.
  6. begreen

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    Wow, lucky you. That is a nice find. Be sure to do a few small break-in fires before getting the stove hot. Just use some kindling and let the fire die down. You want to gently drive any moisture out of the cast iron. Each fire can be a little larger, but not large. Shoot for about 250F max temp with the first fire, 300 the next and 400F for the third. Then you can fire it up. All three breakin fires can be done in the same day, just let the stove cool down in between.

    You'll find out if the stove is painted as soon as it gets up to 500F on the stove top. It will smoke for a bit as the paint bakes in, so plan to open some windows.
  7. mass_burner

    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    after sitting for 40+ years, it does have some surface rust. so i'm going to wire wheel it in those spots. I may be able to tell for sure if it was ever painted from that process.
  8. peakbagger

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    One thing with 602's is they dont like to jammed full of wood and the air choked off. They are very effective creosote producers when run that way. If you are trying to get an overnight burn, its the wrong stove. Just light it off and burn what you need and then let it go out adn restart in the AM if you need it. You will want to have plenty of kindling around but it doesnt take long to learn how to light them
  9. goofa

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    whats a good stove for over night burns or long daily burns... i know that is a foolish question but i have a crazy work schedule and am gone for long hours during the day and wood is my sole heat source.... i refuse to use my oil boiler
  10. begreen

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    Blaze King cat.
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  11. mass_burner

    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    Thanks for the advice, this stove is small, but the room it needs to heat is only 25 x 20.

    This stove is for our south facing patio with glass sliders all around and glass slider access into the house. We will only be using this stove while in the room, for winter "sunbathing" (roof also has 3 45" x 45" skylights), and relaxing on cold nights listening to music, etc.
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    Perfect application. You will like this stove, it's a willing little heater. Just pay attention and don't get distracted when firing off a load. It can go from 200F to 800F very quickly if you forget to shut down the air. Add a flue pipe damper for better control and heat retention.
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    peakbagger Minister of Fire

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    I ditto the prior response, hard to meet a Jotul sized stove for that application. Just make sure you cut your wood to fit.
  14. mass_burner

    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    Just out of curiosity, how much is a BK King Ultra non-cat?
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    Not sure what Mass prices would be. I am taking a wild guess at near $3K?? Call a local dealer for the actual price.
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    Got a chance to wire wheel the 602 before install this coming weekend. I can see that it had paint on it before, but most of it is gone now. I'm thinking, what's the worst that could happen if I run it this way? I did see somewhere they sold cast iron grey hi temp paint, like for exhaust manifilds etc.



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  17. begreen

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    Without paint the stove will instantly rust. Heat accelerates oxidation. Give it a good couple coats of Stove Brite paint in your choice of color and enjoy that beauty. Don't paint the hot plate though.

    You are one lucky fellow to have found an original factory condition 602. Treat it well. Get a stove top thermometer and install with a damper in the flue pipe.
  18. mass_burner

    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    Is there any way to date this stove by the numbers inside?
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    No idea, it could be quite old, they have been making that model since the 1940's I think. The newer ones had a UL plate on it so that might be a clue. Be sure to do some gentler break in fires with just kindling for the first couple fire. And put a 1/2" of sand evenly across the bottom of the firebox.

    PS: You do have the baffle and side burn plates for the stove, right?
  20. mass_burner

    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    >>You do have the baffle and side burn plates for the stove, right?

    Yes, 2 side plates and 1 top baffle. Until I saw the diagram I had the side plates more toward the rear due to my limited experience with free standing stoves, the rear sides get the hotest, not the front sides. BTW, should I paint the inside pieces and the inside also?
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    Great. There's no need to paint anything on the inside of the stove.
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    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    >>install with a damper in the flue pipe.

    double wall flu pipe damper is $63. with an older stove, I guess its a must.
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    It will give you more control over the fire and less heat up the flue.
  24. mass_burner

    mass_burner Minister of Fire

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    I picked up some cast iron paint meant for engine blocks, 500 degree, will this work?
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    I'd look at the 1000 degree + range! 800 degree is probably a normal temperture range for a wood stove

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