I have had no luck with my epa englander 30 even after many hours of help form Mike who has been very very helpful with my situation. I am now looking for a non epa stove a new one. I need something that is jsut as large or close to the englander 30 in size but is non epa. I am not going to try another epa stove with different brand for fear of same results has just been a nightmare with this thing so far. Let me know if anyone knows of a non epa stove that is this large.