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  1. 04HemiRam2500

    04HemiRam2500 Feeling the Heat

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    I have had no luck with my epa englander 30 even after many hours of help form Mike who has been very very helpful with my situation.

    I am now looking for a non epa stove a new one. I need something that is jsut as large or close to the englander 30 in size but is non epa.

    I am not going to try another epa stove with different brand for fear of same results has just been a nightmare with this thing so far.

    Let me know if anyone knows of a non epa stove that is this large.

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  2. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    With so many large pre-EPA chokers available used on craigslist it makes no sense to go looking for a new one.
  3. 04HemiRam2500

    04HemiRam2500 Feeling the Heat

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    Hey BB have any in mind that are as big as the 30? Its either I find one or I am getting the englander furnace.

    Let me know of a brand and name thanks.

    I was prefering new that way I know it wasnt abused.
  4. eclecticcottage

    eclecticcottage Minister of Fire

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    No offense intented, but EPA stoves are heating lots of homes...the fact that it's an EPA stove is not your problem.
  5. 04HemiRam2500

    04HemiRam2500 Feeling the Heat

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    What about the vogelzang mountaineer does not have as big a firebox not sure the size but it boast more btus than the englander30.
  6. arbutus

    arbutus Burning Hunk

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    We had a terrible time with a non airtight stove, even though it had almost a 7 cubic foot firebox.

    My relatives have a Garrison, and I have seen a large Fisher, both work well.


    What specific problems are you having?

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