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Looks like its going to be a gas !

Post in 'It's a Gas!' started by turbofrank, Feb 18, 2011.

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  1. turbofrank

    turbofrank New Member

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    Hello,
    Well after quite some time of reading and searching , I was leaning towards a pellet stove insert, but recently changed my mind towards on a propane gas stove. I currently have a fireplace, used it last winter, doesnt heat the house much,, wife hates it due to the smell and smoke (that what she says ) The fireplace is in my basement (family room) approx 350 sq. feet, but would like to heat the main floor ( 2 story home). I was at a local stove store and the sales men said to stay away from propane if i'm planning on doing some serious heating and saving on my electric bills ( he sells propane/wood/pellet). After numerous conversations with co-workers and neighbors,,, propane is the simplest, easiest way to go. I recently stayed up north at a hotel which had propane fireplace,,, what a charm and beauty,, I was sold on a propane stove.
    Now , I want to go with a insert , seeing as the hole for my fireplace is already there. I don't want to cheap out , and end up regreting it later on, so I want a good quality stove. The are numerous make and models out there , but would like to see what people here are using and their feedback. So any suggestions and comments ??? The more the better !!!
    Thanks !

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  2. DAKSY

    DAKSY Patriot Guard Rider Staff Member

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    You don't say what the (5) pertinent dimensions of your fireplace are:
    H & W Front; H & W Rear & Depth...
    So it's difficult to suggest anything.
    In my 10+ years with these products, there are few that are as reliable
    & can crank out the heat like the ones made in your homeland by Regency...
    There are some nicer units & some with more bells and whistles, but the
    Regency gas inserts are built very well, & relatively easy to install & service...
    That being said, Heat & Glo had some great Fire Brick units that they redesigned
    with poor results. They're working out the kinks & if they do, they MAY be
    as good as the older, standing piloted units.
    Jotul has done some redesign for the upcoming year, but I haven't seen the
    new GI 450 yet, so I can't speak to that one.
    Hearthstone has a couple of gas inserts, but like the redesigned HnGs, they're
    finicky & difficult to service...
    They are others out the that those more familiar with will hafta chime in on...
    The above opinions are my own & others may disagree with what I said, but
    I'm stickin to them...
  3. Fsappo

    Fsappo Minister of Fire

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    Great job going with propane. You'll be glad you did. As a Regency dealer, I can agree with Bob and say that they are a pleasure to work with.
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    turbofrank New Member

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    as for the dimensions,,, width 28, height 21 1/2 , depth 28 .
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    turbofrank New Member

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    also, price wise, what am im looking at for one of these installed and everything.. ? Lets say a regency model gas insert medium size ....
  6. Install fire 1

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    I'm in canada and also agree that they are great heaters and a joy to install.

    I put in a 150 or so regency's a year.

    I find a plain jane black U32 (medium), installed to be around 3500 bucks with the tax.

    HST really added to the price as the dealers paid pst before.

    Worked on a 21 year old regency insert a few weeks ago, looked absolutly mint.

    Great reliability.
  7. turbofrank

    turbofrank New Member

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    thanks for the info,, looked at the regency,, they have some pretty nice units . Also , , what is the difference between , direct vent and single vent,, if thats what its called ???
  8. DAKSY

    DAKSY Patriot Guard Rider Staff Member

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    Never heard of "single-vent" unless you're referring to "B-Vent."
    B-vent is natural draft & uses combustion air from INSIDE your home.
    Wind directions & outside air temperatures can affect B-vent appliances...
    Direct Vent uses Combustion air from OUTSIDE your home & is less
    prone to drafting issue in windy conditions or warmer outside temperatures...
  9. Fsappo

    Fsappo Minister of Fire

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    Go direct vent instead of Bvent. Installed for a U32 would be about $3500 here in Central NY as well, including a liner kit, direct wiring the fan and about 20' of gas line. Regency does have a sale until the end of the month.
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    Depending on the unit you pick, you can get 150, 300 or 600 off until Feb 22.

    Go direct vent, much safer as it is sealed from your home, ie: uses outside air for combustion, and won't leak flue gases back into your home.

    The b-vent U31 has a vent safety, but has much more wiring that can be troublesome down the road as it is wired through the on-off switch circuit to the back side of the insert where the draft hood is. (where liner connects).


    Good luck.
  11. turbofrank

    turbofrank New Member

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    The u32 insert from regency is something that i would like . I didn't find the sq ft room recommended,,, anyone have a idea ? Also, will a unit like this help out at all in heating the main floor during those cold winter days ?
    I would rather go with a unit and product that has good reviews and feedback and simple , than one of those fancy high tech units.
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    turbofrank New Member

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    I was reading on Napoleon Gas stoves......... they have a nice selection , and great efficiency.... the GDI30 is rated at 85% !!! One of the highest ratings I've seen so far. Any feedbacks on this manufacturer ?
  13. DAKSY

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    The U32 is rated at 32K BTU INPUT & 77% efficiency, so the
    heat OUTPUT will 24.6K BTU. How much area it will heat depends
    upon a number of factors, including insulation.
    In Quebec with R21 walls & R38 ceilings & good windows,
    you can heat maybe 750 - 800sf.
    If you have a leaky old farmhouse, maybe 550 - 600sf.
    HTH
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