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MWP Softwood Pellets

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by subsailor, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. gbreda

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    Well said. It really comes down to a price point. The ash does not bother me or my stove ans cleanings are easy. If the Spruce, Lacretes, North Country (want to try those) are in he 300 area, then MWP soft it is. I may keep my current stash of Spruce Pointe for next years cold snaps and not even use them this year. Being a basement dweller, I need the extra octane at times. If the stove were upstairs, I would have zero issues....but I enjoy the warm basement too and actually use it, so it is what it is.

    All said and done, I wish I had gone with a pellet boiler, but that is for another thread.

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  2. Dollabill

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    I agree to this extent MWP hardwood blends are now at 259 a ton ( Ithink ) when you figure the extra BTUs of say the LaCretes or simular pellets are you really saving ? Just sayin !
  3. jtakeman

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    Hey G,

    We keep hearing the Harmans are smart stoves. And they put out the same temps no matter the pellet. Proof has never been posted and With you saying more octane does matter adds fuel that they do very in temp from pellet to pellet.

    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/ash-turds.105839/#post-1378022

    Don't like myths and wonder what is the actual? Just curious tis all. Certainly don't want peeps buying a supposed smart stove that ain't any smarter than what they already have.

    I made my dumb stove smart with a thermostat. ::-)
  4. subsailor

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    During the time I have been on this forum I have seen several Harman owners state that they can tell the difference heat wise between pellets. If they truly can, they're a hell of a lot more perceptive than I am because I don't see it.
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    Feeling the difference or actually measuring the difference is totally different. A relatively inexpensive thermometer and actually measurements is all I am asking for.
  6. gbreda

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    Sorry, the Spruce Pointe feel hotter in my stove and I think that a Harman is getting same heat from any brand of fuel is malarkey. If they were, all these Harmans would be burning Infernos ! ! !

    It may regulate to a certain amount, but BTU's are BTU's and all pellets are not equal.

    I dont measure temp of the stove as much as how warm it is upstairs. All I know is that the Spruce Pointes roasted me and my better half (and she is the real test here as I always can get away with a t-shirt) to the point of turning the stove down in below zero wind chill blowing at 40 MPH plus. The MWP have not done that. They simply are not getting the horsepower out of the P68 that the Spruce are. Proof is in the pudding when she is taking off the sweatshirt and not using the blanket !
  7. subsailor

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    I agree, but even at the same settings the stove will be making adjustments which may skew the resulting temps.
  8. gbreda

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    Here is a measurement for ya> My girlfirend runs an XXV at home. With LG's and a feed rate of 3.5-4 she could stand in front of the stove while it is firing hard (and she does too ==c). Put Vermonts in that same stove, she cannot run it with a feed rate above 1-1.5 and she cannot stand in front of the stove without it being too hot to stand there.
  9. gbreda

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    You can find MWP blend at 209 around now at some Wally World locations.
  10. jtakeman

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    Thanks G, ;)
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    Huh? If its making adjustments. It should be trying to keep a consistent temp. Otherwise it aint no smarter than my stove.

    I like G's word for it! A whole pile of malarkey! AKA crap! ;em
  12. CT Pellet

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    Amen brother....Can I get a witness?
  13. subsailor

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    Being the cheapskate that I am, I refuse to pay for Spruce Pointes, Lacretes, Okies, etc, so I may be full of chit (although I try to go regularly). The last time I spend extra $ on pellets was last year when I bought 5 bags of Cubex and was very disappointed.
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  14. gbreda

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    These are 2 different subjects. The Harman will maintain a temp, but it cannot squeeze out more BTU than what is in the fuel. So, in that sense I stand by my previous post in another thread

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    And I have asked a few of these people to take accurate temp readings and report back but they all seemed to vanish and not come back. Hmmmmm
  16. gbreda

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    I dont have temp readings, but isnt this statement saying that all pellets are equal? The stove does not produce more heat than what the pellet can produce. The stove WILL maintain a certain temp within the range of the particular fuel.
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    Can we say you have a smart wallet then? ::-)

    I burn the lower dollar pellet too. Cause it saves me money and my stove can burn any pellet, I guess my stove is smart too? :p
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  18. mepellet

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    You have it slightly wrong. The stove is not getting the same heat out of different brand pellets. The stove is producing the same heat with different pellets. Where the difference is, is the rate at which the pellets burn. The lower but pellets will burn faster. Yes a btu is a btu. But compare the btus/$ for a super premium pellet and a box store pellet. This is why many of us harman owners will not buy the super premium pellets. We would rather save the money. After all, that is why most of us pellet burners are burning peel lets instead of oil or propane right?
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    Why would you buy mwp blend for 259? If you are, you aren't looking very hard.
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    While that is true, as a basement dweller, I need the extra oomph now and then. If burning the fuel faster produces the heat I need upstairs, then so be it. Bottom line is the better, more expensive pellet will heat my home better when it is 10 below. The cheaper pellet will not allow the stove to produce its max output. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, if the stove were in my living room, then a cheaper pellet would suffice.
  21. mepellet

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    At least you were "smart" for buying a stove that can handle any pellet. I guess we could call you a "smart guy." :D
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  22. mepellet

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    Ok then if the stone is running full tilt and you need the extra BTUs then yes I would agree with you. My stove very rarely runs on max.
  23. gbreda

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    I'd call him a smart arse ;)
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  24. gbreda

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    Not often, but now and then I can use those 68K BTUs
  25. mepellet

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    And a smart pig. Jeeze have you seen how many times he is offering his pellet removal service? Always thinking!

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