You are right Dexter Not only that, the Harman uses generic Convection and Combustion blowers I can buy real cheap! The Astoria has a special size you must get from Travis! The auger motor is 4 RPM with the cooling propeller on the back! I think they really last a long, long time! Also the ashes drop right from the burn pot to the ash pan. I will not even have to move the ductwork to the upstairs when I open the firebox door like I have to with the Astoria! Sounds like a keeper. Especially since the P61a hopper is now healthy 132 lbs and the Astoria is only 115 lbs! Thanks for your comments Dexter. Then next season we can compare our new stovies.