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Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by pharmsaler, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. budman

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  2. pharmsaler

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    Is anybody just using a fireproof carpet throw in front of the hearth. Am I allowed to do this? It is just not going to look right if I put ceramic down or anything like that. I have seen these carpet throws for about $100.......Any advise?
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    That looks fantastic! As far as a hearth extension goes, maybe a piece of black granite would tie in?
  4. kingquad

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    I wouldn't trust one of those carpets. Morso makes ember protection pads out of thick tempered glass. They are expensive though. You could probably have one made locally by a glass place to your exact dimensions with a nice beveled edge for considerably cheaper. Just a thought. Lots of online places sell factory made pads too. They're pretty expensive as well.

    That insert looks fantastic. You're gonna love it.
  5. budman

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    Amazon has them for quite a bit less.
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    I think a black hearth extension would fit in fine there. If there is a flooring layer under the carpet that could be removed (to get to the subfloor) it could be recessed into the floor and least part way. One material that would work well here is black epoxy resin. You may have seen this in school laboratory countertops. It is tough, durable and looks great. If it gets scratched, a little black shoe wax will make it look like new again.
  7. pharmsaler

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    GREAT!!!!!!!!!! Supposed to be 72 degrees tomorrow.....There is no way the wife will let me builed a fire tomorrow...
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    I know your pain... it might be another week or so before I can light off my first fire for the season.
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    I chopped up a BUNCH of kindling today, mostly out of oak, some cherry, and some other wood that was really dark brown-almost black. it had a very pretty grain color to it. Anyway, how much kindling am I going to need? I don't plan on burning 24/7 but rather during the nights when I get home and then all weekend.

    I probably have chopped enough kindling today to fill a 50 gallon drum stacked nicely inside. I used my hatchet and chopped them into 1"-2" squares and maybe 15" long

    Also any idea what kind of wood the other was, it was almost like black cherry...if there is such a thing
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    I finished up installing a pellet stove in the basement today. Had to light it off for smoke checking the pipe. It was already 80 up stairs. My wife said at least it wasn't 95 outside like the August I installed the liners and had to light'em off. :lol:
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    LoL congrats Bart! I'm glad I'm not the only one to test the stove with 90 temps...

    Ray
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    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    You will go through a lot of kindling doing restarts. Nothing to lose by dropping a note to Thomas at Super Cedars for some free samples of his fire starters. I love'em because of the restarts I have to do around here with our flaky weather. I don't know where I left my kindling axe anymore.

    From Thomas in an earlier thread:

    "To all the new members we offer free samples. Email us at info@supercedar.com with your physical address and they are on the way. "
  13. pharmsaler

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    So I finished my series of break in fires..all has been well....I started a pretty good fire tonight, I had two Ez-Bricks and two 1/4 splits....I wasn't after a marathon burn or reach 1000 degrees, rather just want to get the fan to kick on and see how she reacted for a good burn.

    It took about 25 minutes for fan to kick on, glass stayed pretty clean, total burn time was about 6 hours and still have some pretty good coals going on, Fan has been on for about 5.75 hours and still going now. it raised the house temperature up about 7 degrees. Again nothing major, and I wasn't trying to get the house super hot...more less out for a good Sunday stroll on a Thursday evening.

    So far....I'm happy...I will be really happy if I can get the wife to open windows in the middle of winter....HAHAHAHA....Don't think that will happen

    Couple of questions for you all though:


    the secondaries at time seemed to glow, I think this was the secondary burn....nothing to be concerned about...right?

    also

    If I was going to use an IR thermometer...what is the max temp and where should I measure it at? I can get to the collar and maybe the first 6-8" of liner
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    I hate to answer my own question, but it always help to refer back to the manual....Although it does say that when the connector glows I am overfiring the stove....at what temp does the connector glow?



    4. For Maximum Efficiency:
    When the stove is hot, load it fully to the top of the door opening and burn at medium low settings. When
    the fuel is mostly consumed, leaving a bed of red coals, repeat the process. Maximum heat for minimum
    fuel occurs when the stove top temperature is between 250°F (120°C) and 550°F (290°C). The most
    likely causes of dirty glass are: not enough fuel to get the stove thoroughly hot, burning green or wet
    wood, closing the draft until there is insufficient air for complete combustion, or a weak chimney draw.
    Indeed, the cleanness of the glass is a good indicator of the stove operating efficiently.
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    It'll start glowing north of 900 °F
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    The flue collar will glow nicely at around 1,425F degrees. I don't want to go through how I know that again. :mad:
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    42 degrees out side and 76 degrees outside.......... that is with 5--- 1/4 splits and 2 Ez Bricks

    I am happy with the heat production and more the longevity of the burns....really amazed at the performance so far
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    NEED SOME HELP: So this morning I decided to start a fire to take the chill off, I put a few pieces of kindling, wadded up paper and 2 Ez-Bricks to get things started. I got things up to temp pretty quickly and decided to go ahead and load her up. I normally keep the draft open full until the fan kicks in. Well 30 minutes went by and the fan still didn't kick on, so I started to look further.

    I can look into where my liner connects to my stove and I started to see it starting to glow...OH SH!T...I say.....I realized that my blower fan is on a switch and I forgot to flip the switch on. I turned it on and shut down the intake air all the way down...It stopped glowing within 10 minutes and I let it die down.

    DID I DO ANY DAMAGE? HOW CAN I TELL OR CHECK???

    FREAKED OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!
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    Sounds like you need to get into the habit of closing down the air more and sooner. Glowing red is not good, but we all make mistakes. I'm glad you were there to catch this.

    Be careful and attentive when running the stove. It's easy to get distracted and forget to close the air down in increments. I'd leave the fan switch on automatic for safety sake.
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    Looking for some more help here?

    Fireplace has been great except for one thing.......black spots on my glass on overnight burns. Yeas my wood is seasoned for over 1.5 years and sometimes I am using the Ez-bricks which have less than 7% moisture. I have NO problems at all when burning through the evenings and the air control is cut to 25% or so. But when I load it up and shut the air conrtol down to nearly 0. I can easily notice the black spots start to show up?

    I have good draft thus far, I don't see this "creosote" anywhere else in the fire box, not on the ceramic baffles or anywhere else. I took them out for inspection.

    Does this stove have a poor air wash or am I cutting the air down too early or too much?

    Any help would be great
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    Sounds like you might be going the opposite direction since your previous post. Does the glass clear right up after a fresh reload? If so, I wouldn't worry much about it. If not, try closing down the air a tad later and see if that improves things.
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    going backwards??? No..just trying to figure everything out...I really have not had the full need to do overnight burns on a regular basis. The once or twice that i did, I noticed when I woke up the next morning I had black smudges around the outer edges of the glass.

    I think that may be my problem...I will do a reload and with 5-10 minutes I am shutting the air all the way down.

    Performance thus far has been great..it throws the heat.
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    Shutting it down way too early. Me and a lot of other burners around this place close it down in steps and have it leveled out in around an hour.
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    Shoulder season burning and learning is a bit tricky. In a month you and the stove will start settling into a groove. You're doing fine for a beginner.
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    I will have to post pics of the secondaries...there will be no flames from the wood...but the secondaries are fully engulfed and it puts on a great show of dancing fire..pretty awesome to watch

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