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  1. bollyRZ500 New Member

    joined: Oct 30, 2012
    78 posts
    Chalk River, Ontario
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  2. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,726 posts
    Northwestern CT.
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  3. imacman Minister of Fire

    I looked at the owners manual, and I STILL can't figure out how it works w/o electricity.
  4. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,726 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    Only thing I saw is the Vent is 6". Like it is made to replace a wood eater. Didn't get much farther as its a Breakwell!
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  5. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,391 posts
    Salem NH
    I worked on an Englander 25-PFS with a 6" inch top mounted flue and it still needed a positive draft blower to wok well!
  6. IHATEPROPANE Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 24, 2011
    800 posts
    Southern,MA
    Cool idea but expensive @3800 bucks......
  7. DexterDay Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 11, 2010
    9,063 posts
    NE Ohio
    Wow.... Lots of cash...

    I like the idea. Now there are a few out there.
  8. tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 9, 2009
    2,616 posts
    North Georgia
    I wonder if it is like the Franco Belge coal stove I used to have. You would fill a vertical hopper that had a sealed lid on top. It ran out the narrow bottom opening onto a grate where the coal burned. As the coal burned away, it was replaced by more coal than ran out of the bottom of the hopper. The coal inside the hopper would not burn because there was no oxygen up there. Of course, it was convection heat, which this must be if it uses no electricity. Interesting for when AHBL day comes.
  9. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,726 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    Thats kinda what it looks like. They include a special too for the lid. So it must be sealed tight I'd say. It also lookes like it has convection tubes.

    What happens if you open the hopper when it still has some fuel left? Or do you have too let it fun dry before refueling again?
  10. tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 9, 2009
    2,616 posts
    North Georgia
    From reading the manual, they isolate the main pellet chamber from the outside with another 'preload' chamber. You open the top of the preload chamber, fill it, close the lid and then using that tool, rotate the preload chamber, which dumps into the main chamber. That way it keeps the main chamber sealed all the time. Kind of like a rotating door at a hotel. Pretty neat idea.
  11. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,391 posts
    Salem NH
    Hello

    Does anyone have a link to the manual?
  12. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,726 posts
    Northwestern CT.
  13. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,391 posts
    Salem NH
    Thanks Jay

    I do not see a multi-layer pc circuit board with a top mounted LED micro switch Control Panel? Gee, that would make it much harder to operate! LOL
  14. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,442 posts
    Standish, ME
    Well they had to do something to keep you electronic/EEs out of the loop, it cuts down on possible causes of trouble.

    Definitely all wetware malfunctions with this puppy.
  15. hoverfly Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jun 26, 2008
    474 posts
    Southern NH
    There goes the need for repair techs!
  16. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,729 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    Fitting, seeing as they do not endorse them
  17. DexterDay Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 11, 2010
    9,063 posts
    NE Ohio
    Just read the manual.

    Its not a Gravity feed system. To me, its more of a Wood stove with a Pellet basket and a hopper/resiviour.

    You discharge up to 15-30 lbs of fuel into the fuel chamber. And it has secondary air ports to fully combust all gases (if its hot enough). The convection blower is the only electronic component on it.

    It can burn between 5-12 hrs depending on burn rate (low air to high air)

    Oh and its NOT UL Listed?
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  18. UMainah Member

    joined: Jan 4, 2012
    156 posts
    Bangor, ME
    I was thinking the same thing. The Wiseway is a true gravity feed pellet stove.
  19. DexterDay Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 11, 2010
    9,063 posts
    NE Ohio
    And the Wiseway is UL Listed. IIRC. :)

    This Breckwell looks pretty fancy and has the looks over the Wiseway, may even have it beat in Output BTU's.

    They both have there Pro's and Cons. Now that there are a few out there, maybe more will jump on board.

    I like the idea of the gravity feed over the charge feed (one large load to burn over several hours). They both have there own secondary combustion system, but I like the convection blower on the Breckwell to help create a convection current and extract as many BTU as possible.

    Eliminating all the motors, blowers, and controllers will cut down on failures and needed parts. I like my woodstove, but it doesn't burn pellets very well (pellet basket). And the collection, storing, and seasoning of wood..... Well, it takes time, energy, and space.

    These are a Hybrid of sorts. Not everyone has the space for 3 yrs worth of wood :) So pellets are great alternative.

    Looking forward more Manufacturers getting on board.
  20. chickenman New Member

    joined: Jun 22, 2012
    30 posts
    Blowhard Victoria Australia
    Anything that cuts down on the noise of your standard pellet stove is a good thing. This unit looks good but the manual doesn't show much. If anyone can post a diagram for us dumb Aussies to understand how it works that would be great. I do like the idea of a convection fan as I am sure it would make a huge difference to heat tranfer. I guess you could always put a fan behind your Wiseway but then you are starting to get a pretty odd looking unit. This thing looks pretty good. UL testing is not important to us as we have to have them tested here again anyway.
    I have emailed Steve at US stoves for more info. They are already members of our Aus Heating Association so perhaps we have missed out but I haven't seen anyone else selling them here yet.
  21. DexterDay Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 11, 2010
    9,063 posts
    NE Ohio
    Its not a constant supply of fuel.

    It looks as if you have to "Charge" the burn area with fuel. Then it burns that charge over several hours .

    Or at least thats what I got out of it??
  22. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,442 posts
    Standish, ME
    It is a wood stove with a pellet loading system.
  23. kinsmanstoves Minister of Fire

    Did you read the description. They can not even spell the brand name correctly. DUMB ASS. Not sure I would buy a stove that they can not spell correctly.

    Eric
  24. bill3rail Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    293 posts
    LI, NY
    Too much cash for this cheapskate!

    Bill

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