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I think this thread has brought up allot of valid points and discussions. Not all topics are cut and dry grisu.
pun intended? lolI think this thread has brought up allot of valid points and discussions. Not all topics are cut and dry grisu.
Exactly right. By using good techniques and the right equipment you can lower the "dose" which lowers the risk.I think wood burning can be an issue but can be helped with proper burning technique (use dry wood and fast start ups)
the topic of this thread which is to determine if woodburning is a health hazard for children
It's not an issue in my area but I'm not so sure its extremely rare. Several states/regions I've heard of issue burn bans regularly based on particulate measurements and atmospheric conditions.governments deciding to increase regulation and intervention based on extremely rare occurrences
Refer to post #14. I was fine with it then and am fine with it now but it sure seems like to pretty flimsy foundation from which to urge focused commentary. At the end of the day we all scan the posts and reply as our interest is piqued or we think we have something to add. I think you and the rest of the members here contribute fantastically and do a great job "policing" yourselves.Maybe we can stop talking about other websites/institutions and concentrate on the topic of this thread which is to determine if woodburning is a health hazard for children? There are always PMs if you feel the need to discuss something else.
I'm not so sure its extremely rare. Several states/regions I've heard of issue burn bans regularly based on particulate measurements and atmospheric conditions.
What concerns me is the extrapolation by bureaucrats from the rare exception to over-generalization, such as a single case of exposing a kid to high levels of particulates that might lead regulators (and/or doctors) to leap to the conclusion that ALL wood stoves are a pervasive health risk.
From memory I think oil was on the order of 0.5 g/hr and NG was more like 0.1 g/hr. EPA somewhere around 2-5. Not to beat a dead horse but to a much greater degree oil is oil and NG is NG, Naturally wood varies much more so stove output changes a lot in and out of the lab compared to the others.P.S. anyone know how much cleaner an oil/propane/gas boiler or furnace is than one of the cleaner EPA stoves?
Do you know how much it pains me, every time I have to like one of your posts, Grisu? [emoji14]Maybe we can stop talking about other websites/institutions and concentrate on the topic of this thread which is to determine if woodburning is a health hazard for children? There are always PMs if you feel the need to discuss something else.
Actually, the stats are not very clear. Allergies are hereditary, and so are the Amish. You would have to introduce a foreign population into their environment, to even begin taking any conclusions from this casual observation. One could more easily argue that anyone with a hereditary disposition for allergies fell out of the population years ago, due to their lifestyle choices."A new study I saw on PBS 2 nights ago showed that Amish farm kids have almost no allergies at all. About 1/100th of the normal! Their environments were clean but not overly sanitized. The theory is that dust and dirt exposure at an early age substantially reduced allergies in children. It seems counter intuitive but the stats are very clear...."
Refer to post #14. I was fine with it then and am fine with it now but it sure seems like to pretty flimsy foundation from which to urge focused commentary.
In fact, the reference to post #14 had nothing to do with any political organization. It was simply supporting a civil and respectful reply I made to a critical post that I thought deserved a reply. Regarding the charge of "baiting," my experience tells me that it is always a mistake to assume motive of someone I don't know. Allowing that your own experience may be different, I'll simply say that it did not serve you well in this case. You're clearly not alone in your view that Grisu made a good point (Grisu makes a lot of them) but it should be noted that your call for it to be dropped came after it had been dropped. Happy heating, Jeremy.But yet your response to what you perceived as unfair criticism of that institution was to throw out an opposing snipe at Planned Parenthood, which could have had no other purpose than trying to bait further political argument. I think Grisu made a valid point and we should drop it.
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. This site isn't the wood version of the NRA.