Lots of people burn coal in open fireplaces and smoke dragons here in Utah. Coal is extremely cheap around these parts, and I am the only person in my neighborhood with a wood burning stove who doesn't buy a ton of coal per year to supplement their firewood.
No inference intended. However tree are some amazing homes above 7000'. And ski resorts...
Also, I live above 7,000' feet and am poor, so watch who you're calling privileged.
Not coal....just wood.Is a ban on wood and coal burning the only thing the State is proposing toward reaching attainment in that area?
I can't get the file posted here but a quick google search brought up nothing but a burn ban.
Is a ban on wood and coal burning the only thing the State is proposing toward reaching attainment in that area?
I can't get the file posted here but a quick google search brought up nothing but a burn ban.
Just have everyone get Blake Kings and there will be no smoke or smell coming out of the chimney - they wont even know you are burning!
Not coal....just wood.
Wow, that is all I can say, downright dumbfounded. Who is the special interest group behind this?
The proposed seasonal wood burn amendment would ban the use of solid fuel in open fireplaces and wood/coal stoves from Oct.1 to March 15.
Utah is the dumping grounds for nucluar wast and was clemical war fare that they burned for severl years.
Sounds like coal since coal is pretty solid eh?
I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that you would love to see Utah pass this law.WA and OR are probably the strictest stated for wood stove regs, some of which were championed by stove sellers.
This is not happening just in the US. As populations grow and fuel gets more expensive wood smoke is increasingly seen as an issue. In New Zealand wood smoke pollution is at crisis levels at times and they have very stiff regulations compared to here. Fireplace and open burning are the first things to be eliminated if the goal is to achieve quick results.
This is Christchurch on a bad day.
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Having a stake in the race has nothing to do with whether or not you'd like to see the law passed. The correct answer would be either yes or no, but thanks for the response.bsruther, I have no stake in that race, though I agree with BKVP that open burning, fireplaces and smoke dragons should be the first step, not an outright ban. There may still be days where they have no choice but to stop all burning, but that should be indexed to air quality and not arbitrary. Not sure how bad it is there as I have never tracked their level of pollution and never been there in winter.
Ironically the last time I was in SLC was for the HPBA show with several stoves burning outdoors at the time. This was last March and the air was clear.
So then, what are you in favor of having them pass? You said "smoke dragons should be the first step". Would you like to see the "smoke dragons" banned?No, as it stands. Thought I made it clear that I am not in favor of an all out ban.
Not banned, but more like what we have here, indexed to the degree of pollution. Stage 1 locally means EPA 2 and pellet stoves only, no fireplace, pre-EPA stoves, or open burning. Stage 2 means no burning at all unless it is the sole source of heat. If there is no inversion and a good system is blowing through, why should any stove be banned? To encourage clean burning they could penalize the worst offenders if necessary based on the length of time and opacity of smoke. It also appears they might consider adopting CA standards for their cars if this is a major contributor to their air pollution. More aggressive filtration on the rest of local industry would also help. Again, this is hypothetical. The only information I have on their problem has come through this thread.So then, what are you in favor of having them pass? You said "smoke dragons should be the first step". Would you like to see the "smoke dragons" banned?
So then, what are you in favor of having them pass? You said "smoke dragons should be the first step". Would you like to see the "smoke dragons" banned?
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