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  1. Coog New Member

    joined: Aug 28, 2012
    87 posts
    North West Illinois
    Okay so I purchased the unit and am waiting for it to come in. I still need to make the call on the stack.

    Bought a Quad 7100, which allows for the air-cooled or the Duraplus insulated pipe. The pricing is drastically different between the two; like $1,000 vs $2,000. Of course this is 8" pipe which is ridiculously expensive. I have always gathered that insulated pipe is better and recommended for colder climates, which I am on the border beings I am in NW Illinois. Also, the air-cooled pipe requires an air-cooled kit (which comes with the unit). Not found of that idea.

    Should I just swallow hard and get the packed pipe?
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  2. chimneylinerjames Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 26, 2012
    269 posts
    If the pipe will be exposed outside go with the insulated pipe. So if you are just planning on penetrating the chimney pipe thru the roof, use the Class A. If it is in a insulated chase all the way you could use the air cooled pipe.
  3. Joful Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 7, 2012
    2,868 posts
    Philadelphia
    ... or if in an existing chimney, use a blanket-wrapped flex liner.
  4. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,443 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    How tall will the flue be? If single-story definitely go with the insulated pipe. Same if this is in an uninsulated exterior chase. Aw heck, just do it. It will be one less thing to replace if you decide to update the fireplace 10 yrs down the road.
  5. Coog New Member

    joined: Aug 28, 2012
    87 posts
    North West Illinois
    There is about 12' of stack to the roof line; 7' in an insulated chase and 4' exposed in the attic. Another 2'-3' oabove the roof. The whole stack is straight up, no elbows.
  6. Augie Member

    joined: Nov 8, 2012
    201 posts
    North Of Canada
    I have 6ft of blackpipe and 13ft of class a, the class a is exposed for almost 8ft. No issues with draft. Class a is going to be insulated to someone extent by the air space between the layers.
  7. Scotty Overkill firewood hoarder

    joined: Sep 24, 2011
    7,161 posts
    central PA
    I'd be going with Class A either way you slice it. Nice having that layer of insulation in the pipe.......just my two cents.

    Merry Christmas!
  8. Coog New Member

    joined: Aug 28, 2012
    87 posts
    North West Illinois

    Ya. I think I will go with the insulated pipe. I have a short straight stack. I really do not like the air cooled kit. Seems like I should need insulated pipe if I need an air cool kit.

    Hey, if I replaced my fireplace some day with a unit that requires 6" or 7" pipe, is it okay to reduce and keep the 8". Has anyone done this?
  9. Scotty Overkill firewood hoarder

    joined: Sep 24, 2011
    7,161 posts
    central PA
    It's OK to reduce the pipe down, but you shouldn't reduce the stove down. Only trouble is when you have a 6" stove tying into an 8" flue, sometimes you have reduced draft issues......
  10. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,443 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    For sure go with insulated. The fireplace requires a minimum of 13ft, but go taller if at all possible. It may be possible to adapt later, but this really depends on the unit's requirements.
    Scotty Overkill likes this.
  11. Coog New Member

    joined: Aug 28, 2012
    87 posts
    North West Illinois
    Plan to go with the insulated pipe. Thanks all for the input. I will post pics once the unit is installed; hopefully by the end of January.

    By the way Scotty, your picture avatar is gorgeous; quite the set up. Good work. I think that if you go to work of installing a stove, fireplace or freestanding, one should at least try to make it look good. Ours is the focal point of our entire house.

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