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Pellet stoves with thermostat triggerred on-off auto ignite

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by jrousell, Mar 13, 2008.

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  1. jrousell

    jrousell New Member

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    I have seen mant pellet stoves advertise auto igniter- but some of them mean you push a buttoin, not automatic cyclying off and on from a thermostat.

    I am pretty sure that some quadrafire and harman stopves can work off a thermostat-- but are there others I do not know about?
    My father is looking for a pellet stove, and I'd like to look into any additional options besides those 2 that I know about for him

    thanks

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  2. Shane

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    Enviro's work in both on/off or hi/lo. Lopi, Avalon as well.
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    My Breckwell P2700 works like a champ on a thermostat.

    I use it on hi/lo exclusively. I think the on/off feature is asking for trouble, it can take a good 20 minutes for the stove to cool off, it promotes clinker buildup, and uses the auto-ignite rod a lot.
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    Almost any pellet stove sold new today either comes with a stat or can be hooked up to one. I think it would be more of a challenge to list stoves that CAN'T use a thermostat.
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    Yep, agreed.
    I have a Harmon P61A and a St Croix Hastings...both hooked to programmable thermostats.
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    I thought so too, but when I talk to some owners that use the thermostats-- some say it is only for hi-lo( not of interest to me) or that it doesn't ignite reliably etc...

    I am looking for ones that really work well with on/off form a thermostat...


    I saw one brand that ran a combination of hi-low and auto-lite.. it would run at lowest setting for 30 min and if still too warm it would shut down.... so you had best of both worlds...
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    ESW has the model 10-cpm unit which will run in an on-off thermostat setup with auto ignite, self cleaning igniter will even light corn unassisted (its a multifuel unit) with a dirty pot.
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    Mike
    Thanks for that information. I like teh englander stoves for their quality/price combination...

    I am betting that the box stores don't sell that model do they? Am I correct in assuming that the auto-starts on teh other pellet models are teh push-button variety?
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    Bixby Maxfire bio-mass stoves with the latest software version of 2.70 (download is free) will:

    - - turn off and restart automatically under thermostat control at a selected heat level (1 - 8),
    - - or switch from set heat level (1 - 8) to level 1 and back under thermostat control,
    - - or operate at the selected heat level (1 - 8) continuously.

    Turn off and restart time varies with heat level selection and each takes about 15 - 20 minutes.

    Irrespective of brand, I suggest that the best thermostat option is to vary the heat level but not turn the stove off/on.

    All burning parameters are adjustable via software control so the Bixby can burn a variety of fuels, wood pellets, corn, cherry pits, switchgrass pellets, etc. I've only burned wood pellets to date since corn is higher now due to alcohol demands.

    Bixby's are, I think, the most expensive US made pellet burners but I got mine from an on-line auction for $1950.00 in early November + $400.00 for shipping +$350.00 for venting. I think a dealer gets about $4000.00 with installation/venting kit included. Bixby does NOT warranty on-line purchases so you need to have some DIY and computer competence to go that route.

    I run my Bixby non-stop for two weeks straight. Ash/clinker disposal (pull out drawer every 3-4 days) and fuel replenishment can be done while burning. I maintain every two weeks ( two hours) rather than the 1 week recommended.

    I have no experience/knowledge of other brands but Harman and Breckwell would have been my 2nd and 3rd choices based on online research.

    Steve

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    I have a Quad 1200i insert that is totally automatic. I set the thermostat and it cycles on and off when needed without any user intervention (other then adding a bag of pellets a day). Temperature remains the same all of the time, (just like when we used the force hot air oil furnace.) With $3.75 per gallon home heating oil, glad I am a pellet head!
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    actually they do , or can special order one in if they do not stock it. as for the "on-off" t-stat setup , the cpm is the only one we currently offer which is set up for that , the rest are "high/low" only , this coming year though we will be featuring the 25-ep series which will have that setup as well . as of yet i do not have as much info on it , but the unit was designed by one of our forum members "corie" and it looks like its gonna be a slammin good stove , im eyeballing it myself to install in place of my 25-pdvc , (which i love, but this thing , GAWD! )
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    Softare for a stove? Interesting concept! Any software on my stove would melt, i'm afraid.... :lol:
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    Especially if the stove has Windows.... :(
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    All forum members should be the first to see pics of the new stove Mike and Corie! send em our way and you'll be sold out this coming year!
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    Hi i have a p61a what thermostat are you using??
    I think i would like to try because the one that comes with the stove isn't very good..

    chuck
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    You can go to the hardware store and get any millivolt thermostat you like. Usually any that takes batteries is a millivolt one.
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    ok, here ya go , this is the freestanding version (bear in mind there migt be a couple small cosmetic changes before its released

    http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj307/stoveguy2esw/hpba080181.jpg
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    How much is it going to sell for?

    chuck
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    jtp10181: Millivolt? I thought most pellet burners use 12 to 24 volts? Or am I still too new at this?

    Chris
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    Very nice guys! Do I see an ash pan on that free standing? I love the bay window look! Is the stove going to be special order or will it be out at the big box stores? Does it still use the 2 auger system? Thanks for posting, Mike!
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    can you tell me what model this is? and I love the bay window look! Is the stove going to be special order or will it be out at the big box stores? Does it still use the 2 auger system?
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    On my quad castile I hooked up a programmable thermostat and it works fine. It auto lights, etc. My stove is a bit underpowered for my house, so I just leave it set on the high setting. Stove was free so I can't complain, but I would have liked the Mt. Vernon.
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    Many of the standard digital, setbeck, millivolt (as compared to line voltage), programmable thermostats have a slop feature which is an adjustable swing in temperature to prevent the short cycle of a powerful pellet stove. So you can set it to turn on at 65 and off at 75 for example.

    I had a honeywell that tried to keep my old house at exactly 68 all the time. The NG furnace would cycle several times per hour.
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    Castile has a timer built in so it prevents doing that. I think that when it reaches temp and shuts down, it won't cycle back on for 18 minutes. Might be longer. I know that due to the open concept of my house, the heat does drop quick at my location of the thermostat. My stove doesn't cycle on and off due to the stove's feature.
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