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Pellets that are garbage

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by gw2kpro, Nov 24, 2008.

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  1. Bushbuck

    Bushbuck New Member

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    Face it they are all crap and you should just go back to burning oil. Let me offer my assistance in removing those tons of pellets that you may have so you dont have to complain about them. I would even be willing not to charge you to remove all those garbage pellets you may have.. There problem solved. I will burn them all for ya..

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  2. greggo730

    greggo730 New Member

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    I have an Englander stove and it just seems very fussy with the pellets.I have tried probably 12 or so different brands and the only one it seems to like are Hammers.I called the techs at Englander and they told me to adjust the 3 buttons on the bottom(591) but its still real touchy with the pellets.Green Supreme was probably the wosrt.








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  3. slls

    slls Minister of Fire

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    I tend to agree, the stove has a lot to do with how a certain brand will burn. There seems to be at least someone, that hates about every pellet out there. My stove does not seem that fussy, but I have only burned Energex and Pennington. I really like the energex.
  4. newguyjoe

    newguyjoe Member

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    I have burned about 30 bags of the Penningtons Natures Heat from Home Depot so far...besides having to sift them..every bag because of the hand fulls of sawdust in EVERY bag they burn great.well great so far as i have not burned anything else yet to compare them to. I have a huge pile of sawdust outside the garage from the sifting process.i will probably not buy them again because of this.oh well its me first year and im learning.
  5. trogers

    trogers New Member

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    I have been buring Spruce Pointe (softwood) and I love them. They burn hot, not sure about the ash compared with others becasue this is my first year.
  6. JBlank912

    JBlank912 New Member

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    I have mostly Pennington's from HD. They turned out to be last years so they have a lot of Fines. Keeping the fines out of the stove is the only problem. Otherwise they burn good and leave little ash. Although they do dirty the glass alot. I tried this years Penningtons from Walmart, they were smaller and darker and no fines and burned hotter. Ialso tried Green team, they looked like this years Peeningtons, no fines, but alot of ash. A bag of Penningtons, I had maybe 1/2" of ash, a bag of Green Team, Over 2" of ash each time.
  7. Augmister

    Augmister Minister of Fire

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    Green Team has been good for me. Have some Lignetics Presto Logs that others have raved about that I do not care for....
  8. Pellet-King

    Pellet-King Minister of Fire

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    Worst pellets i have used are BIO PLUS!!!, sold at Walmart/Sams? 4-5 yrs ago, they are hard to light, burn very low,have 1 bag left, the smelliest pellets were STOVE CHOW!!, before they went under...why i dont know, they used some kind of wood from washington so i heard, the smell was the raw pellets not while burning!
  9. hotstovecoolmusic

    hotstovecoolmusic New Member

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    I've got 2 tons of Greenway Premium. They've got to be the worst.

    Have you see the pic of the ash build-up in the Big-E that someone recently posted?

    I wish my Big-E looked that clean. The Greenways leave the pot almost full of thick ash after a couple of days (7 hours per day).
  10. stoveguy2esw

    stoveguy2esw Minister of Fire

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    ive burned...

    lignetics, green and orange , love both all around best pellets ive used
    pennington's natures own, burned well but had a slightly lower than average heat output for me
    hardwood heat (TSC store brand) loved em!
    clean energy(lowes store brand) was happy with them
    corinth they were ok but not fantastic
    barefoot burned well decent heat
    marthwood wonderful pellet wish i could get more one of the best performing pellets ive burned right up there with lignetics
    energex was happy with them
    propellets, got those from eric at Kinsman stoves , would recommend them in a heartbeat as well , put them near the top of my list , might have been higher but i only brought a single bag back from ohio left the rest with my sister. as always , thanks to eric for taking the time to run to his other store and sell and load a ton for me on the fly!


    im sure there are a few more but the names escape me. ive never run into a pellet which was "terrible" but each of the brands ive burned have all had certain charactoristics which some may like and others may not. as for heat lignetics shade the marthwood by just a touch but i'd be happy as a clam to burn either at any time. at the other end , the coninth pellets and the penningtons were probably my least favorites though they were in my opinion acceptable pellets in the case of the penningtons they did burn cleaner than the others but for whatever reason the stove physically didnt get as hot , same with the corinths but they were one of the dirtier ones i'd burned.

    one thing ive learned in my work, one mans trash is another mans treasure. i migt take a call and have a customer say "brand x burns great in my stove ,and brand y is junk" the next guy would say brand y was good and he didnt like brand x.
  11. please302

    please302 New Member

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    I just got a p68 and burning pennington pellets. So far burning great although they say p68 burn anything. Got my pellets from home depot and I also have tidy timbers but have not burnt any as of yet. I do believe the quality of burn is closely related to the moisture content ie. the storage of the pellet. I will try to get my pellets earlier this year to keep the price down. If you are from CT I heard that bt pellet in britol is a company that keeps all of their pellets indoors. Nice and dry with controlled temps. Just what I like.
  12. davevassar

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    I actually like the Fireside Ultras. Barefoot's are my favorite, but I can't find them anywhere yet this season.
  13. treehackers

    treehackers New Member

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    Ok so sometimes you get some bad pellets in you supply.

    The question is how do you get a refund for the DAMAGED bags?

    I'm about half way though a 1.4 ton skid and I have found 3 water damaged bags already. My other 2 skids are still fully shrink wrapped from the delivery. I would rather not unwrap the unused pallets but my curiosity is starting to get the better of me.

    I had a hard enough time just getting the pellets, I can imagine trying to get a refund or replacement.
  14. muss

    muss Feeling the Heat

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    You forgot conclusion # 3 . Most but not all on this post are relatively newbies & don't know their stove yet . I was one of the 1st to get Athens & hated them, i figured out wood is wood wether it be dry,seasoned or green. You gotta adjust your stove accordingly. It's not rocket science, just common sense
  15. muss

    muss Feeling the Heat

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    You forgot conclusion # 3 . Most but not all on this post are relatively newbies & don't know their stove yet . I was one of the 1st to get Athens & hated them, i figured out wood is wood wether it be dry,seasoned or green. You gotta adjust your stove accordingly. It's not rocket science, just common sense . My pellets burn pretty good now. I just have to tweek the stove a bit every now & then Muss
  16. Augmister

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    From everything I have been reading, this is the most important issue (next to keeping your stove clean).... how dry is your fuel. I have been storing some bags on my front porch (just a big overhang) as a convenience and noticed a dampness in the feel of the fuel out of the bag. Also, the clinkers are
    more evident vs. just fine ash in the pot. I have the bulk of my load in the garage and have switched to bringing over what I need vs. the convenience of the porch. Big difference.
  17. pellet0708

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    Sorry, the company has now admitted that these have bark in them (which disqualify them for Premium label) and that they had problems with the line at first.
    So, glad you have your stove working but these are still junk and it is not just our ignorance. They burn in my stove too but they crumble into sawdust everytime they are handled. I do hear the later batches at least hold their pellet shape. You may have been lucky enough to have a better batch.
  18. offingmoot

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    i just bought a few bags of stove chow at depot over the weekend to try them out, they smell a bit like particle board, not too bad
    wonder how they got those bags if the company went under
  19. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

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    I also expect that they were over the moisture line as well. I'll burn those that I have but no more until I know that they are truly premium grade, I don't want to spend any more than once a day playing in the fire.
  20. Barrett

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    My PA pellets are crap. TOOOOONS of dust, wicked bad clinkers, and the pellets range in size from 1/8" to 2.5". They also burn way colder than the bag of New England Wood Pellets I just tried.

    anybody want to buy a ton?
  21. South of Boston

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    Being new to the pellet burning I think mine are very good. H.E.A.T LLC from Mountain grove MO. Seem to burn consistant
  22. sparkydog00

    sparkydog00 Feeling the Heat

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    When did they admit to that?
  23. pellet0708

    pellet0708 New Member

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    In the long original Athens thread someone spoke with the plant. They also told my distributor that there were a lot of early issues with raw materials that have been fixed.
  24. MassPellet

    MassPellet New Member

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    I have 3 tons of Pennington (yellow bag - says premium wood but not premium pellets) they are horrible. LOTS of fines in most bags, some fines in the rest. Have also had to deal with water damage - some ruined entire bag - others caused by small holes in bags that leave damaged pellets (puffballs). I have to hand sift each bag to keep from cleaning constantly

    Also have a ton of New England Pellets and they are great. Hope to join pellet pigs in spring by buying 4-5 tons from New England Pellet only.
  25. freebird77

    freebird77 Feeling the Heat

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    I dont seem to be getting the heat output from the Pa. pellets as I did with the Armstrongs last season. The pa. are hardwood where as the Armstrong were softwood. Om using more pellets to keep as warm with the pa. also.
    Im not impressed so far.
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