picked up a hearthstone homestead cat stove . needs work have a few questions

[mike in ct]

so i picked this up for nothing , aside from my time and gas. it's a cat stove i believe...i've never owned a cat stove but from what i've read i wont like it because i dont always burn super dry wood.just is what it is.... i have also read some parts are discontinued on this.... by the looks of it it needs a cat , pins for side door, 1 leg , some gasket work, a little cement patching and the ash pan was junk. i had a heritage years back and liked it. it was a non-cat stove. if this were non cat i probably would'nt even be asking about it. has anyone just eliminated the cat and ran it without? i'm aware it wont meet epa guidelines and wont perform to optimum efficency, yada-yada, but i like the stove otherwise? feedback appreciated. i am going to post a bunch of pics once my camera batteries charge

 

[Vic99]

Unless something has changed, hearthstone does not make a cat stove. If it is a newer stove (1990s+), it is an EPA certified stove and uses secondary burn tubes for a more complete combustion once the stove gets up to temp. You don't need to do anything special to control this stove, only monitor the airflow via a lever that should be on the lower left side as you face the stove.

My first stove was a homestead and I liked it except that it was a bit too small for my house and realistically I got about a 6-6.5 hours burn before I needed to reload.

Hearthstone also made stoves before the EPA regs came in the late 80s, Hearthstone, Hearthstone II, etc. But chances are if this has a plate that says "Homestead" on it, is not one of those earlier models.

Good luck.

 

[Vic99]

Here's all the info:

http://www.hearthstonestoves.com/wood-stoves/stove-details?product_id=19

 

[mike in ct]

well, i came across a thread somewhere on the web that says they made it in a cat stove from 89-92. then went to non cat with secondary tubes. this stove is all steel on backside. has a top or rear exit for flue. it has a side door and a glass front door. it is deeper from front to back than a newer homestead. does not say homestead anywhere i can see, only says "hearthstone" on flue cover and flue collar. at first i thought it was a mansfield , but it's not .it has a ash pan that pullls out the side. has a front door like a mansfield or a newer homestead with the curved top piece. a pic is worth a thousand words, when i get camera charged later today i will take pics and post them

 

[Highbeam]

Hearthstone did make cat stoves long ago. I recall the cat being down low in the back and for some reason people weren't too impressed with it. It must have been too hard to operate.

 

[mike in ct]

thats correct, located at very bottom of stove on back wall. 89-92 on this stove is what i read

 

[Backwoods Savage]

The only problem you will have without the cat is that you will need to burn more wood than you normally would and you may have to clean the chimney more often. I have burned our cat stove without engaging the cat but only for a very small and quick fire where we did not need or want much heat but I would not consider running it that way all winter.

 

[STOVEGUY11]

I couldnt get the picture, but these are the parts for the Hearthstone Harvest, which matches your date. It was a cat stove. Check your serial number against the ones listed below

Model: Harvest "Mod" #8402
Production Dates: 1989 - July 1992
Serial #: 000376-001001
Note: Color must be specified for cast iron parts which are available in enamel.
Key Part # Description
3 1421-51 Front Bottom Stone 2 3/4" x 8 1/2"
4 1421-52 Front Top Stone 3 3/4" x 8 1/2"
5 1421-53 Front Corner Stone 9 1/2" x 3 19/32"
6 1421-54 Left Side Top Stones 4" x 6 11/16"
7 1421-55 Left Side Bottom Stones 2 3/4" x 6 11/16"
8 1421-56 Right Side Stones 6 11/16" x 9 1/2"
9 1421-57 Top Center Stone 8 1/32" x 9 1/2"
10 1421-58 Top Stones Left/Right 8 1/32" x 15 5/8"
11 1421-59 Left Side Vertical Stone 12" x 1 1/4"
13 94-58422 Ash Latch Assembly
Includes:
Ash Pan Handle
Ash Pan Latch
3/16" x 1" Spirol Pin
Ash Pan Shaft
14 94-58420 Side Door Latch Assembly
Includes:
Side Door Handle
Side Door Latch
3/16" x 1" Spirol Pin
15 2421-211 Firebox Exit Guard
16 94-58421 Front Door Latch Assembly
Includes:
Front Door Handle
5/16" x 3/8" Screw
17 2421-219RS Front Door
18 2421-221RE Front Door Outer Frame
19 2010-510 Side Door
20 2421-230RR Side Door Interior Frame
21 2421-239 Primary Air Intake Tube
22 2421-242 Primary Air Manifold
6/2/2003 Harvest Mod 8402.xls
23 94-58430 Damper Assembly
24 2421-250 Reverse Flue Cover Plate
25 2421-273 T-Handle
26 2510-303 Bottom Foot
27 2421-316 Glass Retention Frame
31 2421-341 Andiron
33 2421-343 Bottom Casting
34 2421-344RI Side Door Exterior Frame
35 2421-345 Top Casting
36 2421-347 Front Door Inner Frame
37 2421-348 Chamber Back
38 2421-349 Ash Grate Top
39 2421-350 Ash Grate Base
40 2421-351 Ash Lip
41 2421-352 Ash Grate Handle
42 2010-900 Flue Collar
43 2421-354 Back Panel
44 2010-300 Corner Posts
46 94-58490 Catalytic Tray Assembly
Includes:
Ceramic Board #3
Ceramic Board #4
12" x 25" x 1/4" Ceramic Blanket
Harvest Tray Cap
Harvest Combustor Tray
47 N/A Catalytic Combustor
48 94-58405 Glass Replacement Kit
Includes:
Front Door Glass
Gasket: Tape 3/4"x 5' Adhesive Backed
59 3900-122 1/16" Brass Rod
80 94-58491 Combustor Tray Housing
81 94-58489 Rear Cover Assembly
Includes:
Rear Cover Support Gasket
Bi-metalic Coil
Rear Cover
(3) Rear Cover Bracket
Combustor Anchor Bracket
Plenum
Valve
(9) Rivet 1/8" x 1/8"
(7) Rivet 1/8" x 1/4"
6/2/2003 Harvest Mod 8402.xls
Ceramic Board #10
Ceramic Board #11
(2) Ceramic Board #12
Ceramic Board #13
82 5100-2295 Chamber Baffle
95 5400-2215 Air Wash Control
96 5400-2318 Front Latch Keeper
99 5400-2241 Primary Air Cover
100 94-58423 Damper Handle Assembly (cast)
Includes:
Harvest Damper Rod
3/16" x1" Spirol Pin
103 94-58400 Primary Air Control Assembly
Includes:
Harvest Primary Air Control Arm
Harvest Primary Air Manual Lever
Harvest Primary Air Plate
8-32 Nut
1/4-20 x 1/4" Machine Screw
8-32 x 3/4" Machine Screw
Throttle Stop
3/16" Door Click Bearing
5mm x 14.5mm Inconnel Spring
106 94-58456 Ash Drawer Assembly
Includes:
Harvest Ash Pan Latch
Harvest Ash Pan Door
Harvest Ash Door Handle
(1.88') Gasket: Rope 3/8" Adhesive Backed
(2) 1/4-20 Lock Nut
3/16" x 1" Spirol Pin
(2) 1/4-20 x 1" Machine Screw
5/16-18 x 1/4" Set Screw
Handle Crank
Ash Pan Shaft
107 5920-2289 Rear Shield
108 5400-2018 Firebox Exit Guard Cover (Stainless Steel)
94-58401 Gasket Kit
94-58402 Rear Cover Gasket Kit
Includes:
Ceramic Blanket 12" x 25" x 1/4"
Gasket Glue

 

[mike in ct]

pics as promised

 

[certified106]

Wow it's a crying shame what the previous owner did to that stove.... hh:

 

[Todd]

Looks like it needs a total rebuild, I wouldn't burn it as is.

 

[mike in ct]

yeah, guy left it outside. obviously cant burn as is. want to know-

positive id of stove ?

does anyone here have......or had this stove?

has anyone here eliminated the cat ? if so how did that work out?

my thought was to make a steel plate for backside to cover where cat goes. i would leave baffle opening alone unless it becomes an issue with drafting properly in which case i could cover hole on inside back wall. then it would be pretty much eliminated completly.

also......anyone know how the item in the 7th pic works with this? it appears to be a heat sheild, just not sure how it mounts ?