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  2. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    22,174 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Kinda pricey but I want one.
  3. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    458 posts
    West central PA
    Looks like a great idea. I just searched for something like this last month but came up empty.

    Here's the manufacturer's website:
    http://www.endurance-marine.com/product.php?categoryID=17&productID=87&productName=Tugger Winches

    So...is it heavy duty enough for dragging logs?

  4. A capstan was used to load the bundles of lumber onto this boat. From what I can remember, the capstan was about 8" in diameter. The operator would put three wraps around the capstan and use hand pressure to lift the bundles. He would just relax just a little to lower them with good control.

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  5. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    458 posts
    West central PA
    Yes, capstan winches are great and can be used for heavy pulling/lifting. I'm just not sure how much heavy pulling/lifting a 12v DC capstan winch can accomplish.
  6. fossil Super Moderator

    joined: Sep 30, 2007
    9,263 posts
    Bend, Oregon
  7. There was a thread in "The Wood Shed" where member "MR A" was looking for a way to get some big cut oak rounds up from below the street, rattle snakes included! There was a time when Super Winch produced a reasonably priced 1500 lb 12 volt winch attached to a 2" inch receiver hitch. I could not find it for an idea to post as a reply to his thread. But I found the "capstan winch" and just did the thread for general interest. You are right about it's possible lack of ability to pull.
    I can pull some some pretty good logs with the 4000 lb Superwinch on my wood splitter. One thing about the capstan, you do not have to be in lead to get the line to spool and if used on the back of a pickup, you could pull at right angles to the truck. On the down side, it is questionable as to how much it could pull and also one would really want to know the breaking strength of the rope that you are using and would not want the rope going over a sharp edge; either could result in a whip coming right at you .

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  8. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    458 posts
    West central PA
    I sent an email to the manufacturer and asked whether it would have enough power and if it was heavy duty enough for dragging logs. I'll let you know if they respond. I have an area where I can scrounge a lot of good wood but I'm not permitted to use any motorized vehicles on the property. So I've been researching capstan winches for over a month. If this unit is strong enough I might just buy one.
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  9. One thing that I have to look for before yarding logs, is that there has to be a stump ahead and to the side of the splitter and truck to attach the winch cable to so the truck can be pulled ahead to release the tension on the drive train if the key cannot be turned to get the engine started. With the E- brake set as tight as I can with the transmission in park, sometimes after a good pull, I can not turn the key to get the engine started.
  10. bogydave Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 4, 2009
    7,988 posts
    So Cent ALASKA
    We used the big ones like "fossil" showed,only a horizontal drum, for tying up oil tankers with 9" polly lines.
    The one hobbyheater linked is small diameter, I bet it has plenty of torque to pull logs.

    Looks like a good tool for getting unstuck too. I need one & bet I find several uses to justify it :)
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  11. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Rick - ya ever see the fancy painted up ones in the pointy end of the USS Ranger? Them suckers were big enough to lay across.

    Huh, that is a pretty neat idea for the hitch mount. I am also interested in the success. I don't really have need for one, but I always like to tuck that kind of info neatly into a corner of my brain for future reference.
  12. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    458 posts
    West central PA
  13. coaly Fisher Moderator

    joined: Dec 22, 2007
    1,031 posts
    NE PA
    I off road Land Rovers and use a Pull - Pal for a dead man during winch recovery. Set ground anchor, back up until tight and use as a ground anchor.
  14. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    458 posts
    West central PA
    Here's the email reply from Endurance Marine:

  15. MasterMech Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 2, 2011
    4,972 posts
    Hudson Valley NY
    4000lbs won't haul monster logs but should drag big chunks uphill.
  16. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    458 posts
    West central PA
    There seems to be a discrepancy between the specs on their website and what they stated in their email, so I wrote back and asked for more info:

    Some of their other power products are clearly Chinese in origin.

    It looks like they've simply mated a marine DC capstan pot/ anchor winch to a receiver, and added cables and a foot control.

    I can't tell if its worth $700...

    In the email, they state they ship to US from a warehouse in Blaine WA. That's the same location as the eBay vender selling their products. This looks like the marine winch on which the Tugger is based:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marine-Caps...at_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item19ce02b286
  17. fossil Super Moderator

    joined: Sep 30, 2007
    9,263 posts
    Bend, Oregon
    Yup, I'd say it's all one in the same, and it's an adaptation of an imported product. Blaine WA is ~2 hour drive north of Seattle. 7th largest seaport in N. America, >2M containers/yr. (gotta love Google :p) ~$17B of goods imported from China through the seaport of Seattle in 2011. Rick
  18. Scotty Overkill firewood hoarder

    joined: Sep 24, 2011
    7,152 posts
    central PA
    funny because I just was thinking of making my Ramsey 8000lb PTO winch a portable unit, something I could slide into my receiver and utilize a 5hp Briggs motor I have laying in the barn. would be fairly easy to do if I had the time.......nevermind I don't have any time!
  19. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    458 posts
    West central PA
    They wrote back:
  20. bogydave Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 4, 2009
    7,988 posts
    So Cent ALASKA
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  21. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    458 posts
    West central PA
    No doubt.

    But I still have areas I want to recover trees from, on a lot in which I cannot use motorized vehicles, where I could use a capstan winch to recover a number of nice trunks. It would not be too difficult to rig a mount for this to strap to a tree but I'd still need a 12v DC source to power it. Which at this price point means the chainsaw powered capstan unit probably makes more sense.
  22. MasterMech Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 2, 2011
    4,972 posts
    Hudson Valley NY
    Might beat lugging a 12VDC power supply big enough for that winch into the woods without a motor vehicle.
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  23. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    458 posts
    West central PA
    I'm going to build a wood hauler out of an old snow blower similar to the one here: http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/score-i-love-craigs-list.86371/#post-1114149

    I could also run an old alternator off the snow blower motor and charge a small garden tractor battery for a 12v power supply. I'm still trying to figure out whether the landowner would consider a powered wagon to be a "motorized vehicle."<>
  24. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Probably not gonna work well. The garden tractor battery is gonna give you fits. First, pulling a constant 80 amps out of it for a couple of minutes at a time is gonna kill the battery, even if attached to a genny on the snow blower. Think deep cycle (and big) if you are looking at that kind of amps for any length of time.

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