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So it begins

Post in 'The Inglenook' started by DonCT, Mar 28, 2006.

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  1. wg_bent

    wg_bent Minister of Fire

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    I feel your pain. I had a few of these moments during my install too. In retrospect, I think I should have pulled out the 0 Clearance fireplace and done an install more like yours....maybe in my next house.

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  2. DonCT

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    Does anyone know if the stove pipe can be angled off the stove? Or does it need to run straight for a specific length before any bends? Now, I'm not talking about a 90, just something slight to get it more behind the wall.

    I may still rip down the wall, but if I can bend the pipe back, then I won't HAVE to. I think I'm gonna call the stove place tomorrow and see what they say.
  3. elkimmeg

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    Don there are a few issues here single wall pipe or elbow requires 18" clearance to combustiables in all directions If you use a swivel single wall elbow you may have to deal with combustiable issues with the rear walls. Many elbows are adjustiable angled for 90 degrees to straight.
    The stove position may be 11 " from combustiables but one has to factor the clearances of the vent pipe most double wall connector pipe is 6 or 9" clearance to combustiables but if you use a single wall elbow that is 18" regardless of the stove position.
    Don I'm thinking I might be able to sneek away one day this comming weekend and look your situation over. Pm me your location I have a mother in law in Simsbury. I think we can map out the easiest way to complete your setup even lend a hand. I will pack up some anticipated tools. Knowning me, You will have a safe code compliant setup

    What is Fire code sheet rock? It is a product designed to protect combustiable framing a certain time limit. 5/8" will provide one hour protection doubling it up 2 hours. However the paper face is considered combustiable. the product therefore is a barrier but not non combustiable. Non rated 1/2" drywall is just that not rated for protection there is a different composition of the drywall core for fire core to conventional sheet rock. Dura rock Wonder board ie cement board is considered non combustiable. I applaud your effort but lets come up with the proper solution that affords you a safe install not guessing
  4. DonCT

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    I figured as much. What about a T off the back of the stove? Do they make double wall T's? I just need to move the pipe back a couple inches, or move the wall a couple inches. As of right now, the pipe would be only 1 1/8" from the wall. I don't think a ceiling box will fit that ;)

    The Heritage can be setup for rear vent.
  5. DonCT

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    Found a picture of what I was thinking about. Notice how the pipe takes a slight bend to the rear. If I can do that, I should be able to get the clearance on the wall. DuraTech makes 15 and 30 degree double walled sections. It's just a question of length.

    Thoughts?

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    I called the stove store and they said they make a black double wall T. If I use that with the rear vent for the stove, That will set the stovepipe back enough to clear the alcove front wall.
  7. DonCT

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    Well now that I have more motivation (stove being installed on the 15th!!!!!), I'm really starting to make headway on the alcove :)

    Here, the 2 sheets of 1/2" Durock are installed with a layer of thinset between to help bond them together.

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    All taped up and now where to go :)

    Just have to fill in the little gap on the corner. That was my access point to behing the wall to run the wiring for the new sconces and wall plate. And for some bizzare reason, I find taping quite enjoyable!!!

    Now that I've got the walls going pretty well, I'm going to start on the tile perhaps tonight, or tomorrow. That should allow me to have it all ready for the installers this saturday.

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    Here's the metal channel I've installed to frame the ceiling of the alcove. Once the stove is installed, I'll frame in around the ceiling box and sheetrock it.

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  10. MountainStoveGuy

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    one cool thing about that install is that you get to use the cook plate on the top of the stove. Gives you more area, and a little more restriction, which can make the stove a little more efficient but could also effect draft as well. If you have plenty of chimney it shouldnt be a issue.
  11. DonCT

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    Well, the total chimney run is about 25', with only the slight bend to mate the chimney to the stove pipe. Hopefully that should be good :)

    Arrrrrrghhhhh, figuring out the best way to tile (design wise) is a pain in the arse!!!! I think I'm gonna do some more taping to chill out ;)
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    Looks good so far
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    Don, I find the best way to design tile layouts is on the computer. It allows one to work with dimensionally correct patterns and to rearrange things to one's heart's content. I haven't tried this program, but it's tiling specific and free. http://www.irisceramica.com/merchandising/cad_design_free.php?lang=en

    This does assume that one is comfortable with computer graphics softwre. If not, do it on some 1/4" graph paper. That way you can experiment with layouts that are to scale. If you want, post some ideas and maybe we can help.

    - Will
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    Thanks for the link!!! I laid out my design using CADKEY though, and I think it worked out ok. Here's the tile going on:

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    Gout time!!!!!!! :)

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    Finish product. I have to say, I'm pretty proud of myself. This is my first time designing and building a hearth, taping drywall, and laying tile. :)

    The stove will be installed tomorrow, so more pictures to come!!!!!!

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  17. elkimmeg

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    I think you deserve a Sam Adams kick off your shoes and enjoy it. You see what effort and determination can do
    great job
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    Thanks!!!!! I will definitely have to go to the package store and pick up atleast a sixer ;)

    It's going to be sooo easy to finish out the alcove once the stove is in. I just need to patch the final piece of the wall, hang the ceiling, and paint.
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    Super job Don, it looks great! It's nice that you are documenting all of this. I expect to be doing a similar project later in the summer, so I'm getting good ideas and lessons from your experiences.
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    Yipeee!!!! The day of the install. I'm like a kid on Christmas morning :)

    As for the pictures, I know that pictures have helped me design and build my set up. It's soooo much easier to visualize (obviously). If I can help people along the way, it's even better. Since I don't have that much experience in the wood heating sector, this is my way of contributing to helping others ;)
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    What sucks is that you won't be able to use it for a good 8 months now. Congrads though.
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    I won't see the full benefit till atleast October. But you better believe I'm going to fire it up after it's inspected ;) I don't care if it's 80 out, it's still firing up!!
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