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Sold my NZ6000. It was too Big. What now? FPX?

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Air Dog, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Air Dog

    Air Dog New Member

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    Please, Please reply to this if you have a recommendation.

    This is my research week before I put in an order.

    I have been reading all the older post and have gotten great info.

    I purchased an almost new Napoleon NZ6000 from an unfinished house in which it was never installed.

    Great looking fireplace, but too much for my house. Sold it on Craigslist last week.

    Here is my new short list of "wood burning" ZC fireplaces:
    1. Napoleon NZ-3000 (By far my favorite, but too much $$$).
    2. Napoleon NZ-26WI (Not much cheaper than 3000, but not as pretty)
    3. Fire Place Extraordinaire 36 Elite (I really like this one so far with the double doors)
    4. Lennox Montecito Estate (Nice, but might be too much hp for my house)
    5. BIS tradition (Hard to tell the difference from the Lennox???)
    6. Regency fp90 or ex90 (I like it, but the doors seem a bit small)
    7. Kozy Heat 231 (Don't like the vent over the stove)
    8. Quadrafire 7100 (Too big and I don't really like the looks that much)

    As you can tell I want the "wrought iron" black arched doubled door look that I fell for when I bought the Napoleon.

    I was about to order the NZ3000 yesterday, when I realized that there must be a similar option that is cheaper and with a better EPA rating.

    My house is a three story colonial (28' x 34' footprint) in the New Hampshire seacoast.

    1st floor is all open concept with two ceiling fans at each end.

    Total square footage on all three floors is 2100.

    I attached some pictures from when I built the house.

    ZC Fireplace will go in the room with the columns. Going to duct up to master bedroom above and maybe down to basement if it's okay to do that. Can you duct down?

    Please chime in with your choice from my short list or maybe a new recommendation that I missed in my research.

    Thanks,

    Chris

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  2. James02

    James02 Feeling the Heat

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    Good day AD....Why did you think the unit was too big, most here believe a bigger stove is better than a smaller....I cannot speak much on anything but PE, but Osburn has a good rep....Others will help you with your choice....good luck, nice house!
  3. kingquad

    kingquad Minister of Fire

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    Only units that have a forced air kit can be ducted down. If this is a "must have", then the FPX, regency, and the quad are out for sure. Not sure about the Lennox/Bis units. Check out the Osburn Stratford. Will be the cheapest and can be ducted down with their forced air kit. It does have a smaller firebox though (2.5cuft). Your house is newer construction, so it should be pretty tight. The Osburn would probably get the job done for you if you don't mind the furnace kicking on occasionally.

    Let us know what you go with. I'm considering one of these units too.
  4. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    BIS, FPX and Kozy would be on the top of my list of units to look at. There is also the Valcourt Lafayette which our neighbors to the north like to promote.
  5. ScotO

    ScotO Guest

    I'm working on installing the NZ3000 in my living room right now. From what I've heard on this site, its a good heater. It is, by far, the prettiest ZC unit out there. Yes, its expensive. But I wanted it and we squeezed the money to get it. We bought it from Fireplace Warehouse in Denver, CO online and saved a PILE of money. Maybe check them out......
  6. FyreBug

    FyreBug Minister of Fire

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    If your issue with the NZ6000 was it was too much heat, consider for your next unit a gravity air kit to bring warm air to a room upstairs.

    Some models also allows you to put a blower 'dump' kit. Basically, it turns your ZC into a small furnace. As soon as your ZC reaches temp it starts blowing the excess heat up to 30 ft away via a hidden blower and 5" insulated ducting. Some go so far as to have a thermostat option for the room you want to heat.
  7. Air Dog

    Air Dog New Member

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    Thanks for the replies.

    My first floor is about 850 square feet so the NZ6000 was definitely over kill.

    Although a colonial, it has a small foot print.

    I was planning on ducting it to one other room above, but I was not convinced that it would take enough heat away to make the 1st floor comfortable.

    Now that the NZ6000 is gone, I have to make a decision this week or next.

    I looked at all the models that you all recommended plus a few others and have shrunk my list to the following models:

    1. NZ3000
    2. FPX 36 Elite
    3. Lennox Montecito
    4. Bis Tradition

    Now the questions comes down to price.

    I think the price of the FPX, Lennox or Bis would have to be at least $1000 cheaper than the NZ3000 for me to make it my final choice.

    Any idea's where to get the best price?

    Thanks,

    Chris

    P.S. Hearth.com Members, do you have any pictures of the install or maybe the stove uninstalled? I am curious how big the box behind the face is. Also in the photo's the NZ3000 looks like it has a dark silver color to it instead of black, which I think is cool, but did it come like that or is it black?
  8. Air Dog

    Air Dog New Member

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    Hearth.com Members,

    I just got off the phone with Fireplace Warehouse in Denver. They beat the other place by $100 that I was going to go with and I really enjoyed talking to Bob the sales guy who called me back after office hours. With my two small kids and only being able to get $hit done at night, it was a nice feature being able to talk when I'm not at work or doing honey doo's.

    How long did it take to get your stove?
  9. Dieselhead

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    NZ3000 is a good stove, i do 2600 sqft (loft style) and it keeps things toasty for as cold as it gets in CT. My house is also well insulated and I have the OAK. Last night was the first fire for the season. expect about 4 hour actual flame time with 4 splits, and coals up to 8-10 hrs depending on wood.
  10. Schooner

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    Thanks Dieselhead.

    Mine arrives a week from Friday and then the install.

    Did you do yours yourself?

    Could you post or send me a pic? I'm designing my hearth now and could use some idea's.

    How high is your hearth? Seems like norm is 8-10"?
  11. Dieselhead

    Dieselhead Member

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    Yes I set my stove on 8X16 cinderblocks and came out 2 rows past the stove for the hearth. I did install it myself. I have pics on my home computer Ill post some up tonight.
  12. Dad the Handyman

    Dad the Handyman New Member

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    Did you end up installing the NZ3000? Sounds like we have the same house, so I'm curious how you like it. Also, how much did you pay for it?
  13. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    last years thread, it may not get answered.
  14. Schooner

    Schooner Member

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    Hello Handyman,

    Yes, I did buy the NZ3000. Don't know remember what I paid, but if you get one, call the place in Denver that I used. Best sales and customer service I think I have ever experienced. Even with shipping it was thousands cheaper than I could get it for in New Hampshire.

    Someone on this site recommended them to me.

    Let me dig around for the sales guy I bought it from. He was great and because I was so tight on $$$ he had it shipped to a trucking depo 30 mins from my house which saved another $300 in delivery charges if I got it the rest of the way.

    They have an install department that I called regularly to get help each step along the way.

    The head installer even gave me his cell number for after hours and saved me from a lot of headaches.

    I needed a piece of pipe that I forgot to order initially. While I was looking on craigslist for one, UPS showed up with the piece. They sent it to me for free. When I called them to ask how much it cost me, they said, "Early Christmas Present".

    Overall it was a straight forward install, but if your not a professional, then hire someone to help you.

    Make sure they have insurance, harness equipment and scaffolding like this:

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    I made a lot of mistakes that I can save you from, mostly with hiring the wrong person to help me.

    My house is 2200sq ft and the NZ3000 heats all three floors.

    I have the blower fan, but never finished connecting it last year.

    Even without the fan it heated my entire house all winter.

    The stove heats the 1st floor. I punched out one of the top access points and a heat pipe up the right side of the chimney along the side of the stove pipe in the center.

    I then punched it through the side of the house in the attic and plugged it directly into my upstairs handler.

    Once I get the stove hot, I go up to the 2nd floor and just turn the "FAN" to "ON".

    The Handler sucks the heat out of the NZ-3000 and distributes it throughout the 2nd and 3rd floor.

    I spent $1000/month on Propane each winter before.

    I spent $200/month on Propanelast year.

    I'm soooo glad I did it.

    Pain in the ass when your putting it in, but it literally changed wintertime for me. Within a week, I had a system down for operating, cleaning and keeping it going all the time.

    I have step by step pictures on my phone that I never downloaded.

    Let me work on posting those for you because it will help for sure.

    I did the Chimney myself and really sealed it in.

    When the stove is not on, there is no draft at all.

    I will get the pictures in the next few days.

    Chris
  15. Schooner

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    I bought the NZ3000 and the pipe from:

    Bob Khan
    Fireplace Warehouse ETC
    3827 Steele St. Unit E
    Denver, CO 80205
    Office: 303-296-3823
    Cell: 303-501-6121
    Fax: 720-221-0679
    Email: bob.k@fpwhs.com

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