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  1. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    Hi. I've been given the goahead, of sorts, for a man cave, of sorts, in the basement. I need some heat down there. Was thinking pellet stove with vent routed through the wall somehow.

    -Can the venting be done through the rim joist? My floor joists line up okay in the location I'm thinking? I think I could also go through the concrete.
    -How far a horizontal run can there be before it starts going up?
    -How far from an inside oil tank must it be?

    Thanks for any insights. I realize that I won't tank anything as gospel. Want to look at feasibility. Because of decks and porch and prevailing winds, there seems to be only one wall as a candidate and that wall already has an oil tank, boiler, indirect tank, etc. Might be able to get another flue in the chase, but it'd not be cheap and pipe routing will still have horizontal issue.

    Thanks again.
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  2. Defiant Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2007
    1,880 posts
    Old Lyme CT
    Any windows?
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  3. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    There is a little window. Are you suggesting putting the vent through there?
  4. Defiant Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2007
    1,880 posts
    Old Lyme CT
    Depending how far away from the stove and if you can meet clearances.:cool:
  5. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    I'll go downstairs and poke around, thanks.
  6. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    I'm not sure if there is going to be an easy way. I'll add a couple of pictures. The concrete forms are 2' wide, as are the insulation boards. I have to look at some clearances. If I put it in the corner, it'd be behind a door. And now that I look at it, the floor joists are running left to right.

    basement wall for pellet stove.jpg
    house, southeast.jpg
  7. Defiant Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2007
    1,880 posts
    Old Lyme CT
    That basement window is doable. Any other windows?
  8. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    No. There's a porch on the right, deck on left, breezeway and deck on back. The vent to the right of the window is a dryer vent.
  9. Defiant Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2007
    1,880 posts
    Old Lyme CT
    Where is stove going?
  10. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    Looking at it now, underneath and in front of the window might be good.
    Perhaps I could build a room around the oil heater and tank.
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  11. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,442 posts
    Standish, ME
    A bit of advice install an OAK on the stove and either an OAK or equivalent for the oil eater.

    Otherwise you are going to have a combustion air fight between them should both be on at the same time and the stack effect from being in the lowest level of the house and having done a bit of sealing and such isn't going to help combustion matters anyway.

    As for placement of the stove, to the right of that window from the in the room view and straight through the wall (depends on both the stove and how high the penetration would be) or up and through the wall (keep the stoves vent termination away from that dryer vent lint just loves to go poof).
  12. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    I hear you about the OAK.
    I just was down there, and I don't know if you can see it, but there is a door at the corner. It'd open on the stove if I put it there, I think.
  13. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,442 posts
    Standish, ME
    Your call, you are paying the bills.
  14. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    I know, but if I put it in the corner the door will hit it, which I don't think will be good. I'm not adverse to cutting a hole through the wall...it's not like I'm looking to go through the window. I just think I have to move it over some so the door doesn't hit it.
  15. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,442 posts
    Standish, ME
    Does the door have to swing into that room?

    You have to keep it away from those do-dads that are all ready to the the left of that window. Take a manual with the clearances in it and start making marks on the concrete outside to see how much room you have to work with.
  16. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    That is an idea. Outside doors usually swing into the room, one reason I imagine is because snow would block it. However, is a deck above, so snow is not a factor.
  17. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,840 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    How about where the red dot is? With outside air the clearances shouldn't be a problem, if I get a Harman, for example.
    I'm just not sure how to get the vent pipe from the stove to the wall penetration, with potential door interference.
    Can the vent pipe go up at an angle? I saw nothing in the install manual, but it could look goofy, anyway.

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  18. Lake Girl Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 12, 2011
    332 posts
    NW Ontario
    As to your door, it can still open into the room but replacing it with left hand swing (current on right hand swing) might be less costly than other remedies for an installation.
  19. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,442 posts
    Standish, ME
    Does that window open? If it doesn't you can get closer to it, if it does you can prevent it from opening and then get closer to it. The clearances that present the problem are the do dads and ground level.

    Go outside and mark things off.

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