Soot Eater chimney cleaning

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stockdoct

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Oct 19, 2008
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I bought the Soot Eater from Amazon and tried it today.

I bought it, because my fireplace chimney tops out at 38 ft. from the ground and I an NOT comfortable going up that high on a ladder, even if I had one that tall. In addition, my town (pop 25,000) has no advertised chimney sweeps, and I’ll likely need to get one from 50 miles away to come to my house; I’m sure that won’t come cheaply. Anyway, a “bottom-up” approach to cleaning my chimney myself seemed an irresistible opportunity.

But there were problems. First of all, you’re supposed to trim the SootEater’s floppy silicon appendages to fit your chimney size; and there’s no way for me to tell even if I have a square, rectangular, or circular chimney flue, nor how wide it is. My fireplace chimney is masonry, 100 years old. Without getting on the roof, who knows? I tried sticking my head inside my insert, but couldn’t really see anything, and even with a flashlight and a mirror couldn’t tell. I’m guessing its a big rectangular flue, so I decided not to trim the threads. But who knows?

I know the Soot Eater only goes up 18 ft and my chimney is much taller, but before I spent the money on a second set of rods I wanted to see if it works. I hooked up the rods and connected the electric drill, gently threaded (jammed) the spinny-thingy into the chimney past my insert’s baffles. I pushed it up 18 ft. and then started the electric drill. It worked.

Here’s the funny thing: Pulling it out slowly, I had to walk away from the fireplace to keep my finger on the the drill power ..... but that made the interlocking rods between me and the fireplace resemble a jump rope doing double-dutch. NOTE TO SELF: this job needs two people. and the one next to the fireplace holding and guiding the rods needs to wear gloves to hold onto the rapidly spinning rods without getting “rod-burns” on the hands.

I went up and down a couple times,but my electric drill didn’t have a “reverse” setting to reverse the spinning direction like the Soot Eater’s instructions advised. In the lower half of the chimney in 10 minutes, I got less than a cupful of creasote ... black, coal-like particles. Only a cupful? I expected more. Do you think the upper half of the chimney has more creosote (I’ve been burning for 3-4 years as a “fireplace” since the last chimney sweep inspection, before I bought my insert this past fall. Or did the Soot Eater just not do the job?

I’d love to hear of anyone who did the Soot Eater thing and THEN had a chimney sweep come to evaluate (or did the job over with your own brushes) --- anything less is just guessing. To believe the Soot Eater does a good job, requires me to believe 3 years of a fireplace and 1 year of a EPA insert cooking the whole winter only built up 1/2 cup of creosote in the lower half of the chimney. Does this sound reasonable?

I will definately order another Soot Eater and use the extra rods to go up to the top of my chimney. I’ll write how it does after I give it a try.....

Mike
 
I have a full liner so things may be different, but mine is dirtiest the last two or three feet. Also, I get about a half gallon out of a 16 foot chimney each season. That's burning about 6 cords.
 
Dude--I'm fine with the bottom up approach, but I think you need to see what you're doing. If you've got a direct connect, (or a slammer) you need to disconnect and pull the insert forward to access and clean the chimney. If you had a liner, most folks would be cool with a 'blind' bottom up clean that ran up to the cap.

I would not want to run a stove that I didn't know what the venting looked like, esp in a 100 yr old chimney! :gulp:

seriously--doesn't sound safe.
 
Agreed, you should shell out the money for a sweep at least once for inspection. Try removing each section as it backs out of the chimney and reattach the drill to the next. The sooteater works well for me with a 6" liner.
 
I bought a second Soot Eater. Putting two rods together, I stuck the 6 ft. double-rod up into my chimney and sounded the sides; it definitely felt rectangular, I'm guessing 12 inches wide by 6 inches deep. Then I connected 10 rods together ..... I made it all the way to the top of my chimney. Very carefully we would bring the Soot Eater up and down a few times the length of one rod, drilling on high speed, then remove that rod, and pull back the Soot Eater .

I got not even a handful of black, crystalline creosote. Zippo.

Either .... my chimney is a magical one that doesn't accumulate creosote, or the rectangular shape of the chimney isn't applicable to the Soot Eater's capabilities, or it just doesn't work for me. I gave it a good try.

I will definitely have a chimney sweep come and inspect it before next years burning season and report what I find.
 
If you've got a direct connect (a segment of liner up to the flue tiles) or a stub (a couple feet of liner) or a slammer (just venting into the smoke chamber) then in all likelihood any creosote you dislodged from the flue dropped outside the liner. So, you could be building up creosote fuel outside your liner and on top of your insert, setting the stage for a future chimney fire.

So, can you tell us what you DO know about your venting? Can you remove the surround to see if you've collected creosote on top of the insert? Maybe then you could see (as opposed to feel) how high your stovepipe goes. Can you contact your installer, or look over the quote/bill of sale to determine if you at least have a (minimum code) full direct connect?

Hate to be nooge, but you seem to be replicating the exact fault conditions that (ultimately) lead to many chimney fires in the 70s (or so I hear), and which lead to all such installs being banned in Canada.

I see that you do plan on having a sweep out before burning more. Kudos. Let us know how it worked out.
 
I have to agree. You absolutely have to know what you are shoving that thing into before you can have any idea of how well it is doing the job.

I used to brush top down twice a year on a slammer installation but I knew that I was just pushing the stuff down on top of and behind the insert and smoke shelf, to be cleaned out after the season when I pulled that 650 pound sucker out of the fireplace.
 
stockdoct said:
Here’s the funny thing: Pulling it out slowly, I had to walk away from the fireplace to keep my finger on the the drill power ..... but that made the interlocking rods between me and the fireplace resemble a jump rope doing double-dutch. NOTE TO SELF: this job needs two people. and the one next to the fireplace holding and guiding the rods needs to wear gloves to hold onto the rapidly spinning rods without getting “rod-burns” on the hands.

I have one also. I really like mine too.

One thing... You need to add, and remove the rods as you work the sweep up and down the chimney. I just run it up & down a few times with one rod, add one more and do the same ect.... tell I get to the end. Then I just do the same thing in revers, remove the rods as i work it back down. You can use 2 people if you want to but it's not necessary.

Here's my review...from the first time I used it. https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/31911/
 
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