HDRock
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Electric Splitter , $350
3 Chainsaws , 2 used, 1 a referb , $530
My sentiments , Turning my least favorite season into a much better season of the year: Priceless
Paulywalnut
Minister of Fire
No wonder wood is 200.00 a cord. Looking at all that my wood is 1000.00 a cord. I better keep all of mine.
Paulywalnut
Minister of Fire
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Wood Duck
Minister of Fire
When you're figuring out how much you save, you can't count both the savings from not purchasing wood and the savings from not purchasing oil. Wood is substituting for oil. You would buy either wood or oil, but not both, or not enough of each for the whole winter. If a full winter's heat takes three cords of wood and $1000 worth of oil, then you saved $600 on wood and $3000 on oil, for a savings of $3,600 per year. If you ask how much the 12 cords of wood in the back yard is worth, I'd say it is worth the going price of $200 per cord, not the $10,000 it can save you on oil.
You are saving a bunch of money, but your calculations are biased in favor wood burning.
I think $200 per cord is a reasonable price for wood around here, but I don't check wood prices very often because I don't buy any wood.
You are saving a bunch of money, but your calculations are biased in favor wood burning.
I think $200 per cord is a reasonable price for wood around here, but I don't check wood prices very often because I don't buy any wood.
NortheastAl
Minister of Fire
Considering the price of fuel oil was around $3.85 a gallon last year, and a cord of kiln dried wood was $250, oil is more than double the price of wood. You are ahead of the game with wood, and get to have a house that is 5-8° warmer all winter.
HDRock
Minister of Fire
Augie
Feeling the Heat
Buy 2 cycle oil in quart bottles from your LAPS(local Auto Patrs Store) or walmart carries it. Remember many outboards use it. I have been buying Valvoline, but just about any brand will work even the cheap walmart branded Supertec
For oil info Bob Is the Oil Guy is the forum/place to go!
NortheastAl
Minister of Fire
That's why I used it in figuring out the worst case price scenario. Seasoned cord wood costs between $160 and $200 on average this time of year. Scrounge, of course, is going to be free excepting time and labor. Oil is convenient, and so is delivered wood. Add in another $50 or $75 for stacking a cord and it is almost as convenient as oil, but still cheaper.
I'll admit I'm not much of a math guy, but I see what your saying about not saving an additional 2400 on wood beyond the 12,000 saved on oil.
But there's still good value out there in that pile.
But there's still good value out there in that pile.
Where are you getting kiln dried for 250? Let me know and I'll call them today.
On long island it is $600 or more per cord for Kiln dried!
NortheastAl
Minister of Fire
I get it from a guy in Pawling NY. Too far to travel for him to deliver to you, though. I need some this season and am going to see what this year's price will be. Can't believe it is $600 out in LI. I've seen guys on the Internet that sell it at that price. They usually sell to the occasional fireplace burner, or restaurant. I can buy really seasoned wood that costs $425 a cord, but I'd rather have the kiln dried. Still have some left over from last year and it tested at 18% when I re split one last week. It has been rained on all summer.
This guy has a half cord at $322.75.
https://www.lifirewood.com/long-island-firewood.php
This guy has a face cord at $300
http://www.chillywindsfirewood.com/suffolkcounty.htm
NortheastAl
Minister of Fire
I've gotten wood from this company last year. They are expensive, but no where near what those you put the links to charge. The wood is air dried and a pallet is a face cord. Their wood burns very well. http://www.georgehauser.com/
Until I can get three years ahead on scrounge alone I'll need to supplements with bought wood or Bio Bricks.
They have a pretty nice set up. Wish I knew somebody like that out here.
Those prices are the reason I went with the bio-bricks. Sure would rather supplement with wood.
NortheastAl
Minister of Fire
BioBricks can help make less than perfect wood burnable. Keep searching Craigslist and other places to see who has wood that is either free or being sold at a reasonable price.
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PapaDave
Minister of Fire
Um,......your point?
If I had to buy wood for 600/cord, I'd use nat. gas, or cut my own. Oh wait, I do cut my own.
Logs delivered @$75/cord, and I average 2/3 cord/month, but supplement with stuff scrounged, so my cost for wood comes in around 35-40 bucks/month.
Natty gas is considerably more than that and would run about $150/month, average,
Gotta work for the firewood, need to go to work to pay for the gas, oil, elec. bill.
Stove came with the house, so did the splitter. Bought a CS.
I've used 'em all for 6-7 years, and will continue to do so. At that rate, my CS has cost $4.50/ month. The cost goes down the longer I use it.
Putting out all that money for woodburning paraphernalia,......do you only burn for a single winter, then put everything away for 30 years?
No wonder there's no savings, when it's calc'd that way.
I'm confuzzled by all the confuzzlement.
Um,......your point?
If I had to buy wood for 600/cord, I'd use nat. gas, or cut my own. Oh wait, I do cut my own.
For 600 a cord, you could buy kiln dried Doug Fir 2x4s new at Home Depot and still come out ahead. 600 a cord is 0.40 a board foot, and you can buy 2x4 for like 2.85 each, which is around 0.60 a board foot. However, since the 2x4 is nice and square, it will fill the whole pile with no air space, whereas a stacked pile is still at least 1/3 air, I would think. Plus, no stacking or splitting required. Just cut to length with a chop saw and go.
gmule
Feeling the Heat
what if you get "paid" to gather your firewood?Adds a whole other factor to the equation, eh?
I am also getting paid to get fire wood. People are scared of wild fires and paying good money to have the trees removed from their property. It has also helped that some insurance companies are handing out cancellation notices from their insurance companies if they don't mitigate their property.
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