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System Layout Drawing, Schematic, or Diagram thread?

Post in 'The Boiler Room - Wood Boilers and Furnaces' started by Stlshrk, Mar 5, 2008.

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  1. Stlshrk

    Stlshrk Member

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    I have been seeing in some threads that people have been kind enough to post system layout drawings. It is really interesting to see what is done by different folks in far off places. I am seeing many different and great ideas on ways to accomplish many things. I am finding that some folks have had similar ideas to mine and others have found problems with other things I was thinking of trying. Those are possibly the most valuable tidbits of info. Not the resolution to an issue, but rather, just the warning flag that someone is nice enough to throw out there!

    Anyway, the only issue is that schematics are hidden and spread about quite a bit. Is there a thread somewhere in the forum where everyone just posts their system layout drawings, schematics, or diagrams? I am new to the site so maybe I just have not found it yet. Or possibly there is a need for a thread to do this.

    It seems like, at least in my area, to install a wood gasifier and hydronic heating system will be a do it yourself adventure as no vendors have a clue. There are plumbers that say they can try and HVAC vendors that say the same, but why should I pay them to train themselves on my dime? It just costs too much to have a vendor from further north to come down and do it. However, the systems make too much sense to no go that route.

    It seems like everybody has a list of lessons learned as well, but that could be a different topic. Just trying to avoid whatever possible in the "design" stage.

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  2. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Hopefully your search has ended. I've moved it over to the boiler room. There are some good folks here to help you out.
  3. Eric Johnson

    Eric Johnson Mod Emeritus

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    Thanks for moving the thread, BG.

    Typically, the way we do it is for the poor, hapless victim to post his or her diagram, and then the rest of us start taking potshots at it. Said "diagram" can be anything from a CAD graphic to a scan of a rough sketch on a cocktail napkin. Whatever works best for you. Picture what you're trying to accomplish, in other words, and then let us help you make it work.

    For a starting point, I would recommend the sticky at the top of the Boiler Room main page about Primary/Secondary piping.

    And most of us have learned the hard way that simpler is almost always better.
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    Nofossil Moderator Emeritus

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    For whatever it's worth, I've documented my approach on my site - link in my signature below.
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    eekster New Member

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    Back on page 11 is my post.." 2nd year burning eko 40", there are some pics of my set up and others who posted diagrams
    it may help. Keith
  6. tuolumne

    tuolumne New Member

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    Here is my setup...but I cannot yet vouch for how well it works! I went through a host of schematics in the thread "Boiler piping schematic with pressurized storage" and ended up with the simplest of the versions which is shown here. This CAD layout roughly puts the components where they ended up in reality versus the others, which were clearer diagrams but more confusing to me when piping. I also drew 3D sketches of everything to make sure I ordered the right peices. However, I've made 3 large orders from pexsupply.com and am still short a few tidbits! The pictures show progress to date, and hopefully can be matched up to the diagram by first time viewers. I have 1000 gallons of pressurized storage on the system. This setup is still open to the potshots Eric referenced, I welcome any criticism up until I fill her with water!

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    slowzuki Feeling the Heat

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    Interesting! I'm looking to achieve a similar thing but with only 2 or 3 pumps. Almost have got it ironed out but am trying to find a simple mechanical way to get rid of the single zone valve needed in my design. Extracting heat the wrong way out of my hx would work great but I want to get it all right off the start.

  8. Stlshrk

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    Thanks for the input folks!
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