The profit reports are kinda bogus, mostly a one-time credit for carbon offsets or something like that. Real profit figures are around a penny/share. Don't care. It's a completely new way to make/sell cars and I think it's going to succeed. Currently they're actually limiting production in order to concentrate on lowering the cost per vehicle (overtime, supply hiccups), getting the Zen where it should be before they flip the switch. Currently there's enough interest to sell 30k/year, more than 2x profitability. The car is about 50k outside my price range, but I would love to own one. It outperforms cars costing 10-40k more money.