Well i started cleaning up this big oak for my neighbor today. this was fun and challenging at the same time. lots of stuff i had to watch for on this one. was able to cut notches in the tree and provide relief cuts then took the old 4 x4 and pulled it out safely. got most of the hazardous stuff out of the way and cut up. i'll wait for colder weather to cut up the trunk of the tree so i can back my trailer on the lawn. this should be burnt in about 4 years. so plenty of time to get it split and stacked.